{"id":146732,"date":"2023-04-17T11:33:32","date_gmt":"2023-04-17T10:33:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.allencarr.com\/articles\/podcast-6\/"},"modified":"2024-11-25T13:58:34","modified_gmt":"2024-11-25T13:58:34","slug":"podcast-6","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.allencarr.com\/en-us\/podcasts\/podcast-6\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast 6"},"content":{"rendered":"    <section  class=\"container container--large article-container\">\n            <div class=\"article \">\n            <div class=\"article__sidebar\">\n                <div class=\"sidebar-inner-section author\">\n                    <div class=\"author__avatar\">\n                                                                                                            <img decoding=\"async\"\n     src=\"https:\/\/allen-carr-live.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/02\/16104103\/author-colleen-dwyer.jpeg\"\n             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                                                           <h6 class=\"author__title sidebar-content\">Head of Global Corporate &#038; Senior Facilitator<\/h6>\n                                    <\/div>\n                                                    <div class=\"sidebar-inner-section\">\n                        <span class=\"sidebar-sub-title\">Reviewed by<\/span>\n                        <a href=\"https:\/\/www.allencarr.com\/en-us\/authors\/john-dicey-2\/\" title=\"John Dicey Bio\">\n                            <p class=\"sidebar-content\">John Dicey<\/p>\n                        <\/a>\n                    <\/div>\n                                <div class=\"sidebar-inner-section\">\n                    <span class=\"sidebar-sub-title\">Published<\/span>\n                                        <p class=\"sidebar-content\">17 April 2023<\/p>\n                <\/div>\n                <div class=\"sidebar-inner-section\">\n                    <span 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class=\"u-video-embed\"><iframe src=\"https:\/\/player.vimeo.com\/video\/815023157?h=bcef0665ae&amp;dnt=1&amp;app_id=122963\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"autoplay; fullscreen; picture-in-picture; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\"><\/iframe><\/div><\/div>\n    <\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Welcome to episode 6 of our podcast series where we bring to you some intriguing discussions on addiction and how to overcome it. In our latest segment called Addiction Central, our experts Colleen Dwyer and John Dicey will be answering some of the questions that have been sent in by our listeners. Among the topics they will be addressing, one listener wonders whether they&#8217;ll still benefit from the Easyway to Quit Drinking program, despite feeling anxious after finishing it.  Tune in to hear what our experts have to say about this.<\/p>\n<p>We are also thrilled to have joining us on the show, Jorge and Isabel from Mexico, who will be sharing their personal journey of quitting smoking with the help of Allen Carr\u2019s Easyway method. Not only did they manage to quit smoking themselves but they have also gone on to help over 70,000 smokers in Mexico do the same. Isabel will also shed some light on their efforts to address the issue of young vapers in Mexico.<\/p>\n<p>So sit back, relax and let us take you on a journey of hope and inspiration with Allen Carr\u2019s Easyway method.<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019d like your questions answered drop us a line on <a href=\"mailto:pod@allencarr.com\">pod@allencarr.com<\/a> with whatever you\u2019d like to say or any questions that you have.<\/p>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"accordion video-block__transcript\" data-accordion=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"video-block__transcript-toggle\"><a href=\"#\" data-ref=\"toggle\">[<span data-ref=\"switch-on\">view<\/span><span data-ref=\"switch-off\">hide<\/span> transcript]<\/a><\/p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"accordion__content\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Hi, and welcome back.<br \/>\nMy name is Colleen Dwyer.<br \/>\nI&#8217;m a senior Allen Carr\u2019s<br \/>\nEasyway facilitator.<br \/>\nI&#8217;m the presenter of our series of online<br \/>\nvideo programs.<br \/>\nAnd I&#8217;m your podcast host.<br \/>\nI&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re going to get a lot<br \/>\nout of this episode.<br \/>\nJohn Dicey and I are answering questions<br \/>\nfrom listeners in our Addiction<br \/>\nCentral segment.<br \/>\nJohn Dicey is the global CEO of Allen<br \/>\nCarr&#8217;s Easy Way.<br \/>\nHe is the co-author of Allen Carr Books<br \/>\nand he is a senior Allen Carr&#8217;s<br \/>\nEasyway facilitator who has helped<br \/>\nliterally millions of addicts<br \/>\nto freedom over the last 25 years.<br \/>\nWe talk about the new program from<br \/>\nAllen Carr&#8217;s Easyway<br \/>\n&#8211; The Easyway to Better Sleep,<br \/>\nand it&#8217;s getting fabulous results<br \/>\nand it&#8217;s basically for anyone<br \/>\nwho has any difficulty at all<br \/>\nin getting regular, good quality sleep<br \/>\nand it&#8217;s never too late<br \/>\nto make the changes that will improve<br \/>\nyour daily quality of life,<br \/>\nwhatever your background.<br \/>\nJohn and I are also hearing from listeners<br \/>\nwho&#8217;ve contacted us with questions,<br \/>\nincluding \u2018I&#8217;ve just finished<br \/>\nthe alcohol book and I still feel anxiety.<br \/>\nIs it going to work for me?\u2019<br \/>\nThank you actually<br \/>\nfor all the great questions<br \/>\nthat we&#8217;ve had from listeners.<br \/>\nPlease keep them coming in.<br \/>\nWe also have some great guests today.<br \/>\nWe have Jorge and Isabel<br \/>\nwho manage our operations in Mexico,<br \/>\nand they&#8217;ll tell us about their history<br \/>\nwith smoking and quitting<br \/>\nand how they have built up the clinics<br \/>\nin Mexico over the last 20 years.<br \/>\nAnd they&#8217;ve helped over<br \/>\n70,000 smokers and vapers to freedom.<br \/>\nIsabel also tells about their work<br \/>\nin guiding parents of Young Vapers,<br \/>\nwhich is a growing concern.<br \/>\nIf you&#8217;d like your questions answered,<br \/>\njust drop us a line on pod@allencarr.com<br \/>\nwith whatever you&#8217;d like to say<br \/>\nor any questions that you might have.<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s pod P.O.D.<br \/>\nat allencarr dot com.<br \/>\nWe&#8217;re happy to answer any questions<br \/>\nabout any addiction<br \/>\nand even if we don&#8217;t actually feature<br \/>\nyour question on a future episode<br \/>\nof the podcast, we will personally reply<br \/>\nto any question we receive, providing you<br \/>\nwith detailed advice and guidance<br \/>\non how to move forward<br \/>\nalso, check out allencarr.com and there<br \/>\nyou&#8217;ll see the host of addictions<br \/>\nand behaviours that Allen Carr&#8217;s Easyway<br \/>\nhas now been applied to.<br \/>\nSo here I am with John Dicey<br \/>\non our Addiction Central segment.<br \/>\nYesah, so I should have<br \/>\nshould have sent the questions through you<br \/>\nto give you enough time to read them<br \/>\nabsorb, kind of have a think about them,<br \/>\nBut I did them.<br \/>\nabout 2 minutes ago<br \/>\nfinally collated them from the emails<br \/>\nwe had coming in.<br \/>\nSo apologies for that.<br \/>\nNo worries<br \/>\nWell, we&#8217;ve got<br \/>\nwe&#8217;ve got a few in, haven&#8217;t we, John.<br \/>\nSo we&#8217;ve got Trish from \u2018didn&#8217;t say\u2019<br \/>\nshe says I&#8217;ve just finished<br \/>\nthe alcohol book<br \/>\nand I still feel anxiety wondering<br \/>\nif it&#8217;s going to work for me.<br \/>\nIs this normal.<br \/>\nI&#8217;m just so afraid<br \/>\nthat it won&#8217;t work for me.<br \/>\nAnd she&#8217;s struggling with worry, she says,<br \/>\nwhich is not the aim.<br \/>\nYeah, that&#8217;s a great<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s a great question, though, isn&#8217;t it?<br \/>\nBecause so many times people wonder how<br \/>\nhow should you feel?<br \/>\nAnd, you know,<br \/>\nat the end of the seminar, we&#8217;d<br \/>\nsay, at the end of the seminar,<br \/>\nwe should go round the room<br \/>\nand just just touch on each person<br \/>\nand just say, \u2018Hope you\u2019re fine.<br \/>\nAny questions?<br \/>\nPeople would often say,<br \/>\nOh, I feel fantastic, I&#8217;m ready to go.<br \/>\nAnd the person sitting next to them<br \/>\nfeels anxious and nervous,<br \/>\nworried or sceptical, thinks,<br \/>\n\u2018Oh, blimey &#8211; it hasn\u2019t worked for me.\u2019<br \/>\nSo it&#8217;s a really,<br \/>\nwe do address the seminar and it&#8217;s<br \/>\ngood to address it now as well,<br \/>\nbecause I&#8217;m can\u2019t remember<br \/>\nhow you said you felt after your seminar,<br \/>\nbut for mine I was<br \/>\nI was still quite sceptical,<br \/>\nI thought was not going to work,<br \/>\nyou know, I&#8217;ll give it a go<br \/>\nand I certainly didn\u2019t feel like sort of<br \/>\nsort of dancing around the room<br \/>\nor anything like that,<br \/>\nwhereas there were people in my seminar<br \/>\nwho said, \u2018Yeah, I&#8217;ve got it.\u2019<br \/>\nNever going to smoke again or whatever.<br \/>\nAnd I think that alone indicates<br \/>\nit doesn&#8217;t really matter how people feel.<br \/>\nPeople feel differently<br \/>\nin different situations.<br \/>\nAnd just because someone<br \/>\nquitted smoking or drinking<br \/>\nor smoking cannabis or whatever<br \/>\nis with the book or the seminar,<br \/>\njust because one person feels elated<br \/>\nand positive at the end<br \/>\ndoesn&#8217;t mean that the person feeling<br \/>\nthe opposite of that it isn\u2019t going to work for them<br \/>\nin fact quite often<br \/>\nthe reverse is the case.<br \/>\nIt doesn&#8217;t really matter<br \/>\nhow people feel at the end.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s your experience as well.<br \/>\nYeah, because I was the same as you.<br \/>\nI was feeling quite.<br \/>\nI was bemused, I suppose I wasn&#8217;t.<br \/>\nI just kind of thought, is that it?<br \/>\nWas that enough?<br \/>\nHas the transformation occurred<br \/>\nbecause I was expecting a big, you know,<br \/>\nHollywood style, you know, reveal<br \/>\nand a big change<br \/>\nin how I was like feeling and thinking.<br \/>\nBut I didn&#8217;t I didn&#8217;t feel any different.<br \/>\nAnd like you say,<br \/>\nwhen when you went round the room<br \/>\nin my seminar<br \/>\nasking as the facilitator, asking<br \/>\npeople how they&#8217;re feeling,<br \/>\nthere was a range of reactions.<br \/>\nSome people were nervous still.<br \/>\nSome people were, you know, raring to go.<br \/>\nAnd I just I said, I don&#8217;t know.<br \/>\nI&#8217;m just I&#8217;m okay.<br \/>\nBut I thought it was too early to call it.<br \/>\nAnd I needed to get some experiences<br \/>\nunder my belt.<br \/>\nI guess I just<br \/>\nI needed to kind of actually go out and<br \/>\njust do a few things without the<br \/>\nthe cigarettes<br \/>\nor the drink<br \/>\nand and just see how it played out.<br \/>\nAnd and it was fine.<br \/>\nIt was fine.<br \/>\nAnd it will be for Trish as well<br \/>\nbut yeah, the range of reactions<br \/>\nat the end of the seminar<br \/>\nthis is quite typical isn&#8217;t it.<br \/>\nIn fact, we have tissues to hand<br \/>\nIn case<br \/>\nof any tears<br \/>\nYeah.<br \/>\nI should point out you actually in the one<br \/>\nof the seminar rooms at in London.<br \/>\nWhich looks fabulous.<br \/>\nI am. I&#8217;m working here today. Yeah.<br \/>\nYeah. Some people do don&#8217;t they.<br \/>\nSort of get very tearful, emotional<br \/>\nat the end and other people<br \/>\nthe complete opposite.<br \/>\nI think it&#8217;s great to reassure Trish of that<br \/>\nit&#8217;s a it&#8217;s a it doesn&#8217;t really matter.<br \/>\nI think sometimes the books talk about,<br \/>\nyou know, you&#8217;re not 100% sure,<br \/>\nreread the relevant part book<br \/>\nthat you&#8217;re worried about.<br \/>\nI think once someone&#8217;s done<br \/>\nthat, you just go with it.<br \/>\nGo for it, you\u2019ve got to get out there,<br \/>\nenjoy life right from the start.<br \/>\nAs long as you do that,<br \/>\neven if you&#8217;re anxious or unsure<br \/>\nor uncertain you&#8217;ll get a fabulous surprise.<br \/>\nI think it generally does<br \/>\njust click for people.<br \/>\nI was very lucky,<br \/>\nI think, because I was a chain smoker.<br \/>\nand you were a heavy smoker as well?<br \/>\nWeren\u2019t you?<br \/>\nBut for me, probably a few minutes<br \/>\nafter the seminar,<br \/>\nall that was enough to have me think.<br \/>\nI think this has worked, you know,<br \/>\nbecause you know, a<br \/>\nI lit a cigarette<br \/>\nas soon as the last one was extinguished.<br \/>\nSo as I left the seminar center<br \/>\nand walked across the parking lot,<br \/>\nI thought, Oh, I&#8217;m all right,<br \/>\nthat&#8217;s interesting.<br \/>\nOkay, I\u2019ll see how I go.<br \/>\nAnd then got to sort of the<br \/>\nthe mailbox on the corner.<br \/>\nI thought \u2018I haven\u2019t lit up!\u2019<br \/>\nI mean, I had thrown the cigarettes<br \/>\naway at the end of the seminar<br \/>\nbut I thought, okay, that&#8217;s interesting.<br \/>\nI feel okay.<br \/>\nThey went past the cornershop<br \/>\non the way to the station and<br \/>\nBlimey &#8211; I\u2019m fine and it<br \/>\nreally was a weird sort of feeling.<br \/>\nAnd that and that&#8217;s how,<br \/>\nthat&#8217;s how it felt really. It wasn&#8217;t<br \/>\nIt was just a bit of an odd<br \/>\ncool feeling,<br \/>\nslightly, slightly, slightly peculiar.<br \/>\nAnd so that that was, that really<br \/>\nwas very quickly I suddenly thought<br \/>\nnever done this before,<br \/>\nyou know, never gone that long<br \/>\nwithout a cigarette before<br \/>\nunless I was asleep<br \/>\nso yeah just to reassure Trish<br \/>\nyou know it doesn&#8217;t matter how you feel<br \/>\ngo for it, you&#8217;ll be fine.<br \/>\nSo the next one is from Kate,<br \/>\nwho also says,<br \/>\nwell, also it doesn&#8217;t say why she&#8217;s from<br \/>\nand she wanted to.<br \/>\nShe said, I just wanted to drop your line.<br \/>\nSo I&#8217;m loving your podcast.<br \/>\nPerfect timing to discover it.<br \/>\nAs I attended a seminar in 2018<br \/>\nand was a glorious happy non drinker,<br \/>\nbut then fell back into the trap<br \/>\nduring lockdown.<br \/>\nDuring lockdown like a total bell end.<br \/>\nI&#8217;ve been listening to the audiobooks<br \/>\nand podcasts<br \/>\nand back in that blissful state,<br \/>\nso you know, that&#8217;s wonderful feedback.<br \/>\nAs I recall, she didn\u2019t actually say that word<br \/>\nThere was a picture of an emoji of a bell,<br \/>\nand the word e n d<br \/>\nI just thought you might skirt over that,<br \/>\nbut you went for the<br \/>\nfull, full disclosure. But<br \/>\nI didn\u2019t know<br \/>\nhow to..<br \/>\nyou did only give me a 15 minute warning.<br \/>\nI need longer.<br \/>\nYeah she did do a little emoji.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s a great reminder, please do let us know<br \/>\nPlease do let us know where you&#8217;re from<br \/>\nwhen you write in.<br \/>\nI mean, you know, just<br \/>\nthe country is great.<br \/>\nJust get, get, get an idea<br \/>\nwho we&#8217;re talking to.<br \/>\nAware if if that makes sense.<br \/>\nBut ever so kind to say<br \/>\nthat she&#8217;s found the<br \/>\nthat podcasts are useful.<br \/>\nI mean, I didn&#8217;t actually expect anyone<br \/>\nto quit as a result of the podcasts.<br \/>\nYeah, you kind of hope that<br \/>\nit will inspire people<br \/>\nto quit or inspire people<br \/>\nto think again about, you know,<br \/>\nif the method hasn&#8217;t worked for them.<br \/>\nAnd I think perhaps it does that somewhat.<br \/>\nSo people have a listen<br \/>\nand they kind of pick up, you know, just,<br \/>\nyou know, the last example<br \/>\nis probably really good.<br \/>\nIf someone gets really hung up,<br \/>\nthey don&#8217;t feel right.<br \/>\nHaving read the book at the end,<br \/>\nit could be<br \/>\nit could be stuck in this constant cycle.<br \/>\nSo someone hearing that,<br \/>\nyou know from us, that it doesn&#8217;t matter<br \/>\nhow you feel at the end, it is enough<br \/>\nto kind of set them on their way, I think.<br \/>\nAnd I think she said that<br \/>\nthat last question,<br \/>\nshe listened to the audiobook<br \/>\nas well or something.<br \/>\nWell, you mean from Kate?<br \/>\nOr attended a seminar in 2018.<br \/>\nYeah.<br \/>\nAnd then she fell back into the trap.<br \/>\nYeah. No.<br \/>\nSo but it\u2019s great<br \/>\nthat she&#8217;s refocused or whatever.<br \/>\nI&#8217;ve seen a couple of comments from people<br \/>\non social media saying that they<br \/>\nthat they&#8217;re free &#8211; courtesy of the podcast,<br \/>\nwhich is kind of pretty cool.<br \/>\nYeah, very happy with that.<br \/>\nBut you know,<br \/>\nwe love to get those messages<br \/>\nfrom people who are happy<br \/>\ndid Kate say that she she gone back to<br \/>\nto drinking during COVID.<br \/>\nI think that&#8217;s sort of a well-trodden path<br \/>\nfor a number of people<br \/>\nwho whichever method of<br \/>\nstopping smoking or drinking<br \/>\nor whatever else they might use,<br \/>\nlike COVID lockdown periods<br \/>\nwere, were really tough for people.<br \/>\nI think<br \/>\nit was possibly easy<br \/>\nfor some to to fall back into the trap.<br \/>\nAnd of course,<br \/>\nnow, well, it&#8217;s largely gone back to normal.<br \/>\nAnd they\u2019re busy getting free again.<br \/>\nAnd you know, it&#8217;s brilliant to hear that.<br \/>\nSo yeah, it did the next person<br \/>\nI don&#8217;t think the next person said where<br \/>\nthey\u2019re from either did they? next question.<br \/>\nNoone said<br \/>\nwhere they were from, so yeah<br \/>\nGiovanni and he said like \u2018Really love<br \/>\nthese podcast addiction central<br \/>\nAre you going to continue<br \/>\nthey&#8217;re really useful.<br \/>\nSo that\u2019s cool<br \/>\nNo, that\u2019s great to hear<br \/>\nWe love to get feedback and yeah<br \/>\ndefinitely carry on for the meantime<br \/>\nI think we probably review it<br \/>\nwhen we get to sort of episode<br \/>\n12 or 16 or something.<br \/>\nWe don&#8217;t want to bore people too much.<br \/>\nAnd I think I think hopefully everything<br \/>\nwe talk about, whether it&#8217;s,<br \/>\nyou know, special guests or or us talking<br \/>\nabout answering questions,<br \/>\nwill remain as relevant<br \/>\na couple years down the line as they<br \/>\nthey are today.<br \/>\nSo yeah, we&#8217;re looking forward<br \/>\nto carrying on a bit longer with them<br \/>\nWe must get people to get get write in<br \/>\nLet us know your questions.<br \/>\nAny difficulties in understanding elements<br \/>\nof the method, Anything at all?<br \/>\nWe&#8217;re we&#8217;re happy to answer them. Yeah.<br \/>\nYeah, yeah. That&#8217;s great.<br \/>\nAnd it&#8217;s nice as well to, to have this<br \/>\nNow, there&#8217;s such a deluge of information<br \/>\nout there on the Internet<br \/>\nand just, you know,<br \/>\nany other source about how hard it is<br \/>\nto quit smoking or drinking or cocaine.<br \/>\nAnd I was doing research<br \/>\nfor another project and it just struck me.<br \/>\nI was looking up about alcohol withdrawal<br \/>\nand I was reading on some, you know,<br \/>\nofficial sites about alcohol withdrawal<br \/>\nand they were saying how<br \/>\nlike when you quit taking alcohol<br \/>\ninto your body, your body rebels.<br \/>\nAnd I just thought what nonsense.<br \/>\nAnd, you know, sign out saying, oh,<br \/>\nyou&#8217;re when the body has become dependent<br \/>\non nicotine, but your body&#8217;s<br \/>\nnever been dependent on nicotine.<br \/>\nAnd I just it&#8217;s nice<br \/>\nto have an opportunity to come out with the<br \/>\nwith something that I say \u2018alternative\u2019<br \/>\n&#8211;  the correct<br \/>\nunderstanding of addiction<br \/>\nand just say it straight.<br \/>\nYou know, it&#8217;s not hard to clear<br \/>\nany of these substances and it&#8217;s not<br \/>\nit is enjoyable.<br \/>\nLife is so much better<br \/>\nwithout all of these things.<br \/>\nAnd if you if you go down the route<br \/>\nas buying into what the, you know,<br \/>\nexperts, so-called experts<br \/>\nsay about it, then, you know, you&#8217;re in<br \/>\nyou&#8217;re in for a rough ride.<br \/>\nAnd it&#8217;s you know, it&#8217;s nice to know<br \/>\nthat there&#8217;s there&#8217;s hope<br \/>\nExactly when it the difference is lost<br \/>\non many of those in traditional<br \/>\nrehab drug cessation areas.<br \/>\nFacilitators, they don&#8217;t realise<br \/>\nlike they constantly talk about<br \/>\nyou are dependent on this drug,<br \/>\nwhether it&#8217;s alcohol,<br \/>\nnicotine, heroin,<br \/>\nwhatever it whatever it is.<br \/>\nAnd I don&#8217;t realise that the significance<br \/>\nthat just an extra word<br \/>\nmakes you feel dependent on it.<br \/>\nIt doesn&#8217;t mean<br \/>\nthat you are dependent on it, and that&#8217;s<br \/>\nactually crucial point<br \/>\nthat you were just making<br \/>\nAnd it is sort of like brainwashing.<br \/>\nyou know, the people who are trying to help<br \/>\npeople get free,<br \/>\nare the ones who are reinforcing<br \/>\nthis belief \u2018I\u2019m dependent on it.\u2019<br \/>\nI can&#8217;t do anything without it.<br \/>\nWell, yes you can,<br \/>\nyou did all your life before you got hooked.<br \/>\nSo that&#8217;s that&#8217;s a great, great,<br \/>\ngreat point.<br \/>\nSo we&#8217;ve got LOL<br \/>\nwho didn&#8217;t say where they were from<br \/>\nand it says, please talk about the success<br \/>\nof the opioid program<br \/>\nand senior facilitator experience<br \/>\nwith opioid addiction.<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s a good one. That&#8217;s great, isn&#8217;t it?<br \/>\nI think we&#8217;ve touched on this<br \/>\nin previous episodes,<br \/>\nfor sure, in terms of how the seminars<br \/>\nfor other drugs<br \/>\nwork, how effective they are.<br \/>\nAnd I think we&#8217;ve got, scheduled<br \/>\nan interview with the great Cris Hay,<br \/>\nwho has been instrumental in applying<br \/>\nAllen Carr\u2019s Easyway to a host<br \/>\nof different addictions from cannabis<br \/>\nto cocaine to heroin, alcohol, virtually<br \/>\nall of that.<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s something for everyone<br \/>\nto really look forward to as well.<br \/>\nI think Cris will be a really great guest,<br \/>\ngreat to get him on the podcast<br \/>\nto talk about that<br \/>\nwithout wanting to pre-empt<br \/>\ntoo much of what Cris might say.<br \/>\nThis is saying that the same principles<br \/>\napply to opioid addiction<br \/>\nin terms of<br \/>\nunderstanding, understanding what benefits<br \/>\nyou think you get from it,<br \/>\nand then understanding why actually<br \/>\nyou don&#8217;t get those you believe you do<br \/>\nand that&#8217;s the, and that&#8217;s the problem.<br \/>\nBut I think, LOL<br \/>\nI love that name<br \/>\nI don\u2019t know if that\u2019s a real name<br \/>\nLOL or she\u2019s just laughing out loud<br \/>\nI think she seemed quite passionate<br \/>\nabout getting the<br \/>\nthe news out there that we do help with<br \/>\nwith opioids as well,<br \/>\nwhich is pretty cool.<br \/>\nYeah, because what is really available<br \/>\nfor people who have got<br \/>\nan opioid addiction is just like rehab.<br \/>\nIs there any narcotics Anonymous?<br \/>\nAnd yes, it is quite extraordinary.<br \/>\nI mean, I&#8217;ve met a couple of people<br \/>\nrecently who have<br \/>\nput their kids through rehab<br \/>\nin the previous 12 to 18 months and<br \/>\nit&#8217;s terrifying that they sort of<br \/>\nkeep bouncing back into rehab.<br \/>\nAt extraordinary costs really,<br \/>\nof trying to deal with<br \/>\nat least two of them<br \/>\nsaid they&#8217;d spent something<br \/>\nin the region of \u00c2\u00a3150,000<br \/>\non rehab for their kid,<br \/>\nwhich is about, I think, about $180,000<br \/>\nUS dollars<br \/>\nAustralian dollars, I always struggle<br \/>\nto convert Australian dollars<br \/>\n267,000 AUD.<br \/>\nNow I sort of<br \/>\nit&#8217;s horrific<br \/>\nthat the families<br \/>\nknow they&#8217;re so desperate that they get<br \/>\nthat sort of money together<br \/>\nand sadly<br \/>\nthey don&#8217;t get a result that they want,<br \/>\nwhich makes it really<br \/>\nour program seem<br \/>\nI think honestly sometimes if we<br \/>\nif we charged<br \/>\n\u00c2\u00a3100,000<br \/>\nper the person with<br \/>\na money back guarantee, maybe<br \/>\nmore people would come.<br \/>\nI don&#8217;t know.<br \/>\nBut but it&#8217;s a very small amount<br \/>\ncompared to that.<br \/>\nBut we think it&#8217;s 1800 pounds,<br \/>\nsomething like $2,000<br \/>\nless than that, even 1-1 seminar<br \/>\nwith a money back guarantee, which is<br \/>\njust tragic that the people are spending<br \/>\nso much money on rehab<br \/>\nwhen, you know, their first port of call<br \/>\nreally should be, of course, easy way<br \/>\nbecause, well, is nothing to lose.<br \/>\nSo, yeah, thanks a lot.<br \/>\nThanks for getting us to talk about that.<br \/>\nKeep spreading the word.<br \/>\nAnd what about the experience of the<br \/>\n\u2018What&#8217;s the senior<br \/>\nfacilitator experience<br \/>\nwith opioid addiction?<br \/>\nI didn&#8217;t quite understand<br \/>\nthat in terms of.<br \/>\nHave they been addicted to opioids?<br \/>\nI guess.<br \/>\nYeah. I think that&#8217;s that&#8217;s<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s a good question.<br \/>\nI mean, it&#8217;s very hard<br \/>\nto help someone with an addiction if<br \/>\nif you haven&#8217;t suffered it yourself.<br \/>\nAnd it was one of the beauties of the team<br \/>\nthat we put together with Allen<br \/>\nCarr is sort of amongst us<br \/>\nbeing addicted to everything.<br \/>\nYou know, normally it would be<br \/>\na very bad thing to put on a CV<br \/>\nthat the, you know, coke, heroin<br \/>\nor whatever else it might be.<br \/>\nBut actually<br \/>\nAllen was always very open about that<br \/>\nbecause, well, actually what if you use<br \/>\nthe method, and can apply it to<br \/>\nto another drug. Help apply it to another drug<br \/>\nthat&#8217;s, that&#8217;s worth its weight in gold.<br \/>\nWe carried on apace.<br \/>\nWe&#8217;re very lucky now I think with comms.<br \/>\nNow we can talk to so many different<br \/>\npeople who suffered<br \/>\nso many different addictions. It<br \/>\nhelp applying the method to to those.<br \/>\nWhen I was before I started<br \/>\nworking with Allen Carr\u2019s The Easyway<br \/>\nMy view of let&#8217;s say<br \/>\nheroin addiction was kind of cartoonish.<br \/>\nYou know,<br \/>\nI kind of saw when I grew up in the age of<br \/>\nthe Just Say No campaign,<br \/>\nand there was a particular TV show<br \/>\nin the UK called Grange Hill.<br \/>\nI don&#8217;t know if you remember it, John<br \/>\nbut there was a little kid in that Zamo<br \/>\nand he went from<br \/>\nhe was a really cheeky little chappie<br \/>\nand he was very cute and nice character.<br \/>\nAnd then he took heroin<br \/>\non the Monday episode.<br \/>\nAnd then by the Friday episode, he was<br \/>\nhe was in the gutter.<br \/>\nBasically.<br \/>\nHe was stealing from his grandma.<br \/>\nHe was dirty.<br \/>\nHe was taking heroin in the school toilets<br \/>\nand sneaking life and things and<br \/>\nand that was all part of this.<br \/>\nJust say no campaign, don&#8217;t take drugs.<br \/>\nAnd I was horrified of heroin<br \/>\nfrom the results.<br \/>\nI was like,<br \/>\nOh my God, I wouldn&#8217;t go anywhere near.<br \/>\nAnd if anyone took heroin, like,<br \/>\nI would think, Oh,<br \/>\nI couldn&#8217;t even talk to them almost.<br \/>\nBut obviously<br \/>\nmy understanding of addiction<br \/>\nand meeting people who are functioning<br \/>\nhigh functioning heroin addicts,<br \/>\nyou know, my my understanding<br \/>\nis, is completely well it&#8217;s been<br \/>\nis a much more realistic understanding.<br \/>\nIt\u2019s a difficult,<br \/>\nsuch a difficult point<br \/>\nto talk about, really, because there are<br \/>\nthere are sort of two cohorts, really.<br \/>\nOne of the sort of you<br \/>\ndescribe the high functioning,<br \/>\nyou know, good jobs, just,<br \/>\nyou know, they\u2019re desperate to get free.<br \/>\nThey and they understand<br \/>\nthat sort of clock is ticking on their<br \/>\ntheir ability to function properly.<br \/>\nAnd then the absolute tragedy<br \/>\nof the opioid<br \/>\nopioid epidemic across North America,<br \/>\nparticularly<br \/>\nwhere,<br \/>\nyou know, normal people prescribed,<br \/>\nyou know, Class A drugs, painkillers for<br \/>\nsure in the recovery of the road<br \/>\ntraffic accidents<br \/>\nor sporting injuries or whatever,<br \/>\nwho very quickly<br \/>\ngoing to to decline.<br \/>\nAnd when they&#8217;re<br \/>\nwith a legitimate supply of those drugs<br \/>\nrun out<br \/>\nhave to to kind of switch on<br \/>\nto street sort of stuff<br \/>\nand illicit<br \/>\nmeans of getting hold of the drugs<br \/>\nillicitly<br \/>\nand they, sadly those people do have this<br \/>\nyou know, spectacular fall from<br \/>\nfrom like a normal life into,<br \/>\nyou know, this<br \/>\nterribly sad,<br \/>\nyou know, zombie like existence.<br \/>\nA lot of the stuff out in the streets now<br \/>\nnot just in the US<br \/>\nUK of Europe these synthetic<br \/>\nstuff that used to be called<br \/>\nthese called legal highs<br \/>\nin a lot of a lot of places,<br \/>\nwhich made them sound not too risky,<br \/>\nmade them sound actually that,<br \/>\noh, it&#8217;s legal.<br \/>\nSo, you know, whatever,<br \/>\nthey&#8217;ve wreaked havoc<br \/>\nfirstly across kids in college who experimented<br \/>\nthinking you know, legal highs,<br \/>\nthere must be no risk, you know, whereas<br \/>\nit&#8217;s highly, highly addictive stuff.<br \/>\nAnd then the cheap supply<br \/>\nof those sort of drugs<br \/>\ngetting onto the streets,<br \/>\nis the plight of the homeless communities where<br \/>\nthey get the stuff relatively<br \/>\ncheaply, pretty much comatose<br \/>\ngo into comatose state for hours on end.<br \/>\nSo these are two different types<br \/>\nof background we can help either<br \/>\nI think that&#8217;s the important thing.<br \/>\nWe still try to get the method<br \/>\npackaged in a way that can help<br \/>\nthat second group<br \/>\nthat you know, those who are,<br \/>\nyou know, dragged down so low<br \/>\nthat they\u2019re on the street,<br \/>\nbarely barely functioning.<br \/>\nBut we\u2019ll certainly get there<br \/>\nit&#8217;s another a good question.<br \/>\nYeah fantastic. Thank you, John.<br \/>\nThe next couple of things<br \/>\nwe&#8217;re going to talk about is the release<br \/>\nof the new Sleep Online video program.<br \/>\nSo that&#8217;s just been launched,<br \/>\nhasn&#8217;t it, Following the the book.<br \/>\nYeah, that\u2019s absolutely brilliant.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s a sort of<br \/>\na long, long period of research<br \/>\nand testing led to the release of the book<br \/>\nand then further research,<br \/>\nfurther testing.<br \/>\nAnd finally,<br \/>\nthe online<br \/>\nvideo program is ready to go,<br \/>\nstarring the very brilliant<br \/>\npresenter experienced senior Allen Carr<br \/>\nEasyway facilitator.<br \/>\nWho is it? Yes, yes.<br \/>\nIt is yes,<br \/>\nbut you did a great job on it.<br \/>\nReally just a fabulous job.<br \/>\nAnd it&#8217;s getting rave reviews.<br \/>\nSo people are it.<br \/>\nThere are certainly different causes of<br \/>\nsleep issues,<br \/>\noften multiple causes.<br \/>\nAnd I think the program puts together<br \/>\nthis sort of list a checklist.<br \/>\nOkay,<br \/>\nThere\u2019s 28 \/ 30 different things<br \/>\nthat could be causing the problem.<br \/>\nLet&#8217;s, let&#8217;s tick them off.<br \/>\nAnd you only have to do<br \/>\nyou don&#8217;t have to do all of them.<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s the important thing.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s people tend to do one<br \/>\nand then another, then another.<br \/>\nThey tend not to<br \/>\nattack it<br \/>\nrobustly,<br \/>\nbut do this as many things as possible to<br \/>\nto guarantee better sleep.<br \/>\nAnd it&#8217;s a<br \/>\nyou know, very pleased the way it&#8217;s going.<br \/>\nAnd it&#8217;s available now on allencarr.com<br \/>\nHelping loads and loads of people<br \/>\nget back to sleep, sleeping healthily.<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s the really thing.<br \/>\nAnd it&#8217;s not just people<br \/>\nwho can&#8217;t sleep,<br \/>\nit&#8217;s people who have low quality of sleep.<br \/>\nand they stay in that sort of light sleep<br \/>\nwhich can be caused<br \/>\nby all sorts of things.<br \/>\nSometimes those who drink in the evening,<br \/>\nthey never get to the brilliant quality<br \/>\nsleep that refreshes them, reinvigorates them<br \/>\nand helps their brain process<br \/>\n the events of the day<br \/>\nor what have you.<br \/>\nSo that&#8217;s all really good.<br \/>\nSo just a heads up to anyone out there<br \/>\nwho has an issue with sleep.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s is out now.<br \/>\nYeah.<br \/>\nAnd it&#8217;s it was great working on that<br \/>\nbecause it really educated me<br \/>\ninto to the importance of sleep.<br \/>\nAnd I think that in society in general,<br \/>\nwe&#8217;re beginning to recognize<br \/>\nhow critical is to our enjoyment of life.<br \/>\nI used to view it as like almost dead<br \/>\nhours.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s kind of a little bit<br \/>\npointless waste of time, but actually<br \/>\nit&#8217;s crucial to having a fulfilling and,<br \/>\nyou know, life<br \/>\nfull of enjoyment and energy<br \/>\nand all the good stuff.<br \/>\nI think a key a key, a key<br \/>\nbit of information was that I think it&#8217;s,<br \/>\nyou know, you need most people need<br \/>\na minimum 7 hours sleep a night.<br \/>\nYou know, if you get any less than seven,<br \/>\nyou head into trouble mental<br \/>\nhealth<br \/>\nwise, physical wise and every every way.<br \/>\nAnd knowing that, I think<br \/>\njust that sort of small of it<br \/>\ncan be between seven and nine, I think.<br \/>\nSo you some people need seven.<br \/>\nSo I know that&#8217;s<br \/>\nwhat your target should be.<br \/>\nDoesn&#8217;t just make it easier<br \/>\nto make those changes to your sleep<br \/>\nand your plans for sleep.<br \/>\nSuperimportant<br \/>\nAbsolutely.<br \/>\nAnd the other thing<br \/>\nthat I really took note<br \/>\nof was just making<br \/>\nsure your environment is<br \/>\nbecause I kind of knew,<br \/>\nyou know, in magazine articles, it says,<br \/>\nyou know, make sure that you&#8217;ve got dark,<br \/>\nyou know, sleeping area and stuff.<br \/>\nI didn&#8217;t really understand why<br \/>\nthat was so important<br \/>\nand what a difference that made<br \/>\nto make sure that the different elements<br \/>\nof your sleeping environment<br \/>\na perfect fit for that,<br \/>\nyou know, for that activity.<br \/>\nYes. Simple things as well,<br \/>\nisn&#8217;t it stuff.<br \/>\nI mean, some of the stuff is<br \/>\nwill be challenging for some people.<br \/>\nMost of it the easy wins.<br \/>\nYou know, you&#8217;ll you know,<br \/>\nI never realised you could be too hot<br \/>\nfor good sleep.<br \/>\nYou know there&#8217;s a particular<br \/>\ntemperature support you got to get, get,<br \/>\nget the bedroom at that temperature<br \/>\nthere.<br \/>\nThey&#8217;re about certainly in a warmer<br \/>\nthe specified temperature escapes me.<br \/>\nNow I&#8217;m thinking 18 degrees. Yeah.<br \/>\nI think that&#8217;s what it was<br \/>\nAnd, and making sort of a bedroom<br \/>\nwas sort of a sanctuary<br \/>\nso many times so often now where we we<br \/>\nyou know,<br \/>\npeople are doing work in their bedroom,<br \/>\nyou know, work from home or whatever,<br \/>\nbut also checking emails first thing<br \/>\nin the morning from the bedroom, whatever.<br \/>\nJust actually,<br \/>\nif you can, it&#8217;s possible to<br \/>\nto keep keep the bedroom for sleep<br \/>\nand other relaxation shall we say<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s the way that&#8217;s the way<br \/>\nto do it<br \/>\nAnd you know what really struck me?<br \/>\nSo some of the advice is so simple<br \/>\nbut so brilliant.<br \/>\nThe stuff about making your bed. Yeah.<br \/>\nNever really.<br \/>\nYeah.<br \/>\nyou know, I always wondered \u2018What\u2019s the point in making your bed?\u2019<br \/>\nyou gonna get in it later<br \/>\nBut there&#8217;s nothing more welcoming<br \/>\nthan the nicely made bed, the plumped up pillows,<br \/>\nthey&#8217;re all ready to go.<br \/>\nSo at the end of the night<br \/>\nall you\u2019ve got to do is slip in<br \/>\nI don\u2019t want to under<br \/>\nplay, the importance of the information there<br \/>\nBut those are just an example of the easy<br \/>\nwins.<br \/>\nSimple stuff<br \/>\ncombined with every other other lifestyle<br \/>\nfactors.<br \/>\nHow much sugar, refined sugar<br \/>\nyou consume starchy<br \/>\ncarbs, caffeine, the<br \/>\nthe usual and some surprising stuff.<br \/>\nSo I would never have realised that<br \/>\nthat sugar, starchy<br \/>\ncarbs could could cause,<br \/>\nor exacerbate the sleep problem<br \/>\nor be the cause of the sleep problem<br \/>\nSo that was good If people want to read about that it\u2019s on allencarr.com<br \/>\nFantastic. Okay.<br \/>\nAnd then we were, the final point<br \/>\nfor today<br \/>\nwas going to be reaching out for help.<br \/>\nWhy don&#8217;t people do it<br \/>\nin spite of our repeated offers<br \/>\nof free advice and guidance?<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s a that is a great<br \/>\ntopic to talk about, actually,<br \/>\nbecause we spend an awful<br \/>\nlot of time on social<br \/>\nmedia keeping an eye out for<br \/>\nanyone posting about<br \/>\nstruggling to quit with the method<br \/>\nwhichever addiction or issue<br \/>\nthat might be involving<br \/>\nand just reassuring them<br \/>\nand the first thing we do is say &#8211; get in touch.<br \/>\nWe offer free of charge<br \/>\nadvice and guidance,<br \/>\nwhether they\u2019ve read the book<br \/>\nor watched the online video program<br \/>\nor whatever it might be.<br \/>\nI think some people, if it doesn&#8217;t work<br \/>\nfor them the first time around,<br \/>\nthey kind of feel defeated,<br \/>\nand \u2018Well it&#8217;s not going to work.\u2019<br \/>\nIt was going to work.<br \/>\nIt would have worked<br \/>\nfirst time around and they don\u2019t realise that<br \/>\nthat normally just a few wise words from us<br \/>\nis all that&#8217;s needed<br \/>\nfor them to access that method.<br \/>\nagain, read the book<br \/>\nthat they have already or watch an online video program again or whatever<br \/>\nand and apply some<br \/>\nof that simple advice,<br \/>\nguidance and achieve the result they want.<br \/>\nand that\u2019s so important<br \/>\nSo why do you think<br \/>\npeople resist asking for help?<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s a it&#8217;s unusual, isn&#8217;t it?<br \/>\nIf you&#8217;re drowning,<br \/>\nyou put your hand up, somebody puts their<br \/>\nhand out, you want to grab hold of it.<br \/>\nThe thing is, Allen alway summed this up<br \/>\nI think<br \/>\nso perfectly<br \/>\nsome people have a fear of failure<br \/>\nand some people have fear of success.<br \/>\nFear of failure is pretty obvious.<br \/>\nSome people are worried<br \/>\nif they don&#8217;t succeed<br \/>\nnow with<br \/>\nAllen Carr&#8217;s Easyway, is that it?<br \/>\nAre we their<br \/>\nlast chance sort of thing.<br \/>\nFear of success is even more interesting<br \/>\nthat people think<br \/>\nthey assume that when they quit<br \/>\nwhatever drug it is.<br \/>\nThey&#8217;re going to feel deprived or miserable<br \/>\n they&#8217;re going to feel<br \/>\nyou know, it&#8217;s going to be gloomy,<br \/>\na gloomy future, a future<br \/>\nthat don&#8217;t realise course, the whole point<br \/>\nIs that it\u2019s easy.<br \/>\nSo sometimes, I think, fear of successful<br \/>\nwill deter someone<br \/>\nreaching out for help.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s weird as it sounds. In case it works,<br \/>\nthat&#8217;s that.<br \/>\nDoes that make sense to you?<br \/>\nBecause I think it&#8217;s going to work<br \/>\nand then they\u2019ll be miserable<br \/>\nfor the rest of their lives.<br \/>\nThey don\u2019t realise<br \/>\nIt will work<br \/>\nand they feel free and never look back.<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s it.<br \/>\nBecause the brainwashing is so<br \/>\nwe&#8217;re so indoctrinated with this idea that<br \/>\non the other side of that decision<br \/>\nto quit the sugar, the nicotine,<br \/>\nthe alcohol is misery and cravings<br \/>\nunsatisfied cravings, you know,<br \/>\nand life is going to be duller<br \/>\nand we almost can&#8217;t believe<br \/>\nwe almost don&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s possible<br \/>\nto achieve total freedom<br \/>\nfrom the desire to do any of these things.<br \/>\nAnd so I suppose there&#8217;s disbelief.<br \/>\nYou know, there&#8217;s ..<br \/>\nDo they dare to even believe<br \/>\nthat it&#8217;s possible?<br \/>\nAnd and also, I don&#8217;t know about you<br \/>\nand maybe this has changed now<br \/>\nin our society, but back in my day,<br \/>\nthere was almost like not shame<br \/>\nin asking for help, but almost like, well,<br \/>\ncome on, just do it on your own.<br \/>\nLike,<br \/>\nwhy can&#8217;t you just do it on your own?<br \/>\nWhy do you need to ask for help?<br \/>\nYou know, I don&#8217;t know whether that&#8217;s<br \/>\na factor for some people, but I think so.<br \/>\nYes, I think yeah, I think I think society<br \/>\nis I think that&#8217;s sort of the case.<br \/>\nYou feel that<br \/>\nthey should be able to do it on their own<br \/>\nBut I think trying to get through to them<br \/>\nactually there&#8217;s a reason<br \/>\nwe&#8217;re offering this help<br \/>\nand the reason we\u2019re offering it freely,<br \/>\nis we feel very passionately<br \/>\nabout getting people&#8217;s freedom.<br \/>\nWe know that some people just need<br \/>\na little bit of extra help.<br \/>\nSo it&#8217;s so so anyone who listens to this.<br \/>\nWho who?<br \/>\nis on one of our social media group,<br \/>\nwhether it&#8217;s for the sleep program,<br \/>\nwhether it&#8217;s for alcohol,<br \/>\nwhether it&#8217;s sugar<br \/>\nor emotional eating or smoking or vaping.<br \/>\nIf you\u2019re listening to this now,<br \/>\nand you&#8217;ve struggled or failed up until now.<br \/>\nGet in touch<br \/>\nbecause it&#8217;s the best thing<br \/>\nyou&#8217;ll ever do.<br \/>\nReally.<br \/>\nIt really is.<br \/>\nYou&#8217;ve got nothing to lose. It\u2019s free.<br \/>\nYou don&#8217;t have to attend a seminar<br \/>\nor buy a new book or whatever<br \/>\nWe\u2019ll give you sort of clear<br \/>\nguidance and advice, step by step advice.<br \/>\nAnd you could use that to either<br \/>\nread the book.<br \/>\nYou have read the most recent book<br \/>\non the subject, dealing with<br \/>\nor use the online video program or attended<br \/>\nthe live seminar, but the most important thing<br \/>\nis you get that, you get help.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s huge.<br \/>\nMakes a huge, huge difference.<br \/>\nI like the analogy of someone drowning<br \/>\nthat you just you need a helping hand<br \/>\nsometimes to pull you out.<br \/>\nSometimes we do need other people.<br \/>\nWe do need a program.<br \/>\nWe do need, you know, support from some<br \/>\nother people to get us out of trouble.<br \/>\nYeah, it&#8217;s just finishing the job<br \/>\nfor some people.<br \/>\nI think that, you know,<br \/>\nyou&#8217;re reading a book designed to help you<br \/>\nthat suit<br \/>\nthat you&#8217;ve already reached out for help<br \/>\nor you&#8217;re watching a video program or<br \/>\nseminar or whatever it is.<br \/>\nIf for whatever reason it doesn&#8217;t<br \/>\nback in touch because there&#8217;ll be pieces<br \/>\nof the jigsaw for you that&#8217;s missing.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s really easy for us.<br \/>\nwe use a questionnaire process.<br \/>\nThe more information<br \/>\nyou give us, the better<br \/>\nour advice can be.<br \/>\nAnd how long do would you say, John,<br \/>\nit would take to fill out<br \/>\nthat questionnaire?<br \/>\nIs it like a long you know.<br \/>\nNo,   5 minutes?<br \/>\nReally first name<br \/>\nwe do like to know where people are<br \/>\nbecause that does help understand,<br \/>\nfor example,<br \/>\nif we think they might benefit<br \/>\nfrom a free of charge<br \/>\ntelephone call with one of our team,<br \/>\nwe don&#8217;t hesitate to offer that,<br \/>\nyou know, just<br \/>\nto clarify any points in person<br \/>\nSo where you\u2019re from,email address,<br \/>\nphone number, if you want to call<br \/>\nand then  a brief<br \/>\ndescription of of of which elements<br \/>\nof the method they&#8217;ve used<br \/>\nso if they read the book, in which case,<br \/>\nwhich book<br \/>\nand what happened did you find it easy for<br \/>\na while and then go back to it<br \/>\nor did you just find it a struggle right<br \/>\nfrom the start.<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s really it&#8217;s a<br \/>\nmore than 5 minutes really<br \/>\nthe more information<br \/>\nyou give us the better.<br \/>\nBut really, as long as we know.<br \/>\nWhat have you done with Allen Carr so far?<br \/>\nHow did you get on on each occasion<br \/>\nand how long ago was it?<br \/>\nYou know that information<br \/>\nYeah.<br \/>\nFabulous<br \/>\nWe&#8217;re done.<br \/>\nIs that a wrap?<br \/>\nYeah.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s a wrap.<br \/>\nI&#8217;d like to.<br \/>\nI&#8217;d like to ask the question, Is that a wrap?<br \/>\nI&#8217;ll let you have that one. Yes. So<br \/>\nyeah,<br \/>\nmy, my<br \/>\ncold hasn&#8217;t made it too unpleasant to listen.<br \/>\nNot no.<br \/>\nWell, not for me.<br \/>\nBut do write in if it is a problem for anyone<br \/>\nJust complain about John&#8217;s.<br \/>\ncold<br \/>\nnasal tones<br \/>\nYeah, that&#8217;s fantastic.<br \/>\nThank you very much John.<br \/>\nSo I am delighted to welcome<br \/>\nJorge and Isabel to the podcast.<br \/>\nThey head up Allen Carr\u2019s Easyway<br \/>\n operations in Mexico and over the past<br \/>\n20 years they have helped literally<br \/>\ntens of thousands of smokers to freedom.<br \/>\nAnd I asked them to talk a little bit<br \/>\nabout their lives as smokers,<br \/>\nhow they got free,<br \/>\nand how they&#8217;ve helped the smokers<br \/>\nof Mexico, as well as more recently<br \/>\nhelping youngsters who vape.<br \/>\nThey really are heroes of Carr&#8217;s easy way.<br \/>\nHello, Coleen,<br \/>\nwe\u2019re Isabel and Jorge and<br \/>\nwe\u2019re are the franchisees<br \/>\nfor Mexico, the whole country?<br \/>\nWe have been helping smokers<br \/>\nhere in Mexico since 2004<br \/>\nand we are very happy<br \/>\nto be part of this organisation that helps<br \/>\nso many smokers around the world.<br \/>\nThank you, Colleen for the interview<br \/>\nand we are very happy<br \/>\nto be here responding all your questions.<br \/>\nI&#8217;m going to tell you<br \/>\nabout my smoking history.<br \/>\nI started smoking when I was 14 years old.<br \/>\nI started like almost all of all smokers.<br \/>\nI started smoking<br \/>\nonce here and here, once right there<br \/>\nwith my friends in the parties.<br \/>\nThen I started smoking a little more<br \/>\nand more and more.<br \/>\nAnd when I was like 25 years<br \/>\nold, I was already smoking<br \/>\ntwo packs a day.<br \/>\nSo I think I considered myself<br \/>\nlike a very heavy smoker.<br \/>\nI also started smoking<br \/>\nvery young because my family was a very,<br \/>\nvery strong smoker.<br \/>\nFamily.<br \/>\nDo I like a professional smoking family?<br \/>\nMy father was a smoker of four packages<br \/>\na day.<br \/>\nIt was very difficult to live<br \/>\nwith someone that speaks<br \/>\nthat smoke so much as a kid.<br \/>\nI really hate cigarettes.<br \/>\nI was all the time<br \/>\ntelling my father, Don&#8217;t enter to my room.<br \/>\nI really hate to smoke and like that,<br \/>\nbut as every smoke<br \/>\na smoker,<br \/>\nwe we start like playing with the friends.<br \/>\nAnd when we start smoking, we start a lot.<br \/>\nWe smoke a lot because in<br \/>\nmy family was like, very common.<br \/>\nMy, my mother smoked two packages.<br \/>\nMy we are four<br \/>\nsiblings and we are all well.<br \/>\nWe were heavy smokers of two packages<br \/>\na day<br \/>\nand also in our country is very common<br \/>\nthat kids start smoking very young.<br \/>\nSo it was our case also.<br \/>\nWhen I was around two,<br \/>\nwhen I made a lot of I tried to quit<br \/>\nsmoking with a lot of methods,<br \/>\nwith a lot of different techniques.<br \/>\nI tried<br \/>\nnicotine patches, nicotine gum,<br \/>\nbut it was always the same story.<br \/>\nI quit smoking for a couple of these.<br \/>\nI was very angry.<br \/>\nI was not feeling very cool<br \/>\nand making a lot of excuses.<br \/>\nAnd after some days I was smoking again.<br \/>\nSo when I was like 30 years old,<br \/>\nI really thought I was going to be<br \/>\na smoker for the rest of my life.<br \/>\nI really thought I was never going<br \/>\nto be able to quit smoking.<br \/>\nAnd then Isabelle, Isabelle&#8217;s<br \/>\nfamily, is from Spain,<br \/>\nand she has a normal<br \/>\nwhen she has an uncle there.<br \/>\nAnd see, he was also a very heavy smoker<br \/>\nand he came to Mexico for holidays<br \/>\nand he brought the<br \/>\nAllen Carr\u2019s Easyway to quit smoking book.<br \/>\nAnd at that time I was trying to quit<br \/>\nsmoking with nicotine patches.<br \/>\nI remember and he told me,<br \/>\nNo, no, no, don&#8217;t joke with that.<br \/>\nJust read this book.<br \/>\nEverybody that read this book,<br \/>\nQuit Smoking.<br \/>\nSo I read the book and it was like magic.<br \/>\nI just finished<br \/>\nreading the book in a couple of days<br \/>\nand the since the last page, since I<br \/>\nsmoke my<br \/>\nlast cigaretteI knew I was going to be a<br \/>\nnon smoker and the happy non smoker<br \/>\nfor for the rest of my life.<br \/>\nSo for me, the message was incredible.<br \/>\nIt was an incredible experience.<br \/>\nIt like opened my eyes.<br \/>\nI never thought that a method or<br \/>\na book would change the way<br \/>\nI think so much,<br \/>\nbut it was really a shock.<br \/>\nSo I really was smoking.<br \/>\nOne day I was smoking 40 cigarettes a day<br \/>\nand the next day I was happy<br \/>\nnon smoker just because I read the<br \/>\nAllen Carr\u2019s book.<br \/>\nSo for me it was so such a surprise<br \/>\nthat I immediately knew that if<br \/>\nthe method have work with me.<br \/>\nIt will work for all smokers<br \/>\nat that time<br \/>\nthere wasn&#8217;t clinics here in Mexico,<br \/>\nso we got in touch with Allen Carr<br \/>\nwell with the organisation<br \/>\nand we decided that we wanted to start<br \/>\ndoing sessions here in Mexico.<br \/>\nFor me was also, well, a little similar,<br \/>\nbut it was actually a little funny<br \/>\nbecause my family thought that he was<br \/>\ncrazy because<br \/>\nthey cant believe that<br \/>\nJorge quit smoking really.<br \/>\nJorge was a very heavy smoker<br \/>\nas our family<br \/>\nand we in a vacation in Christmas,<br \/>\nI remember we were all in the same house<br \/>\nand for three weeks and he was free.<br \/>\nHe was so happy<br \/>\nand the only way was that they were like,<br \/>\nAre you are you are not mine.<br \/>\nYou&#8217;re not like trying to<br \/>\nto eat more or something.<br \/>\nAnd everybody was like,<br \/>\nI can&#8217;t believe it.<br \/>\nJorge! And we were very happy,<br \/>\nbut we had a lot of,<br \/>\na lot of fear<br \/>\nbecause in my case it was going to be<br \/>\nI was going to be<br \/>\nthe only person that smoked in my house.<br \/>\nAnd it was a challenge, really<br \/>\na challenge for me because I was like very<br \/>\nyou know, you had a lot of fear, afraid.<br \/>\nI was very afraid because to try<br \/>\nbecause this<br \/>\nhe quit smoking with a book and<br \/>\nI can\u2019t  do it.<br \/>\nI was like, I what I&#8217;m going to do.<br \/>\nSo I wait for like three or four months.<br \/>\nAnd they were like, I&#8217;m going to read it.<br \/>\nAnd I started reading it.<br \/>\nI was a very good reader<br \/>\nbecause I\u2019m from a family of<br \/>\npublishing company and one<br \/>\nmy grandfather,<br \/>\nand they were like, I&#8217;m going to read it<br \/>\nand very quick, so I&#8217;m going to know<br \/>\nif I&#8217;m going to be a smoker.<br \/>\nas Jorge as non smoker, No.<br \/>\nSo I quit like in two days<br \/>\nbecause it was the time I had to read it.<br \/>\nAnd really it was impressive<br \/>\nbecause I had to smoke<br \/>\neven in my pregnancy,<br \/>\nreally, I had to smoke<br \/>\nbecause I can&#8217;t quit.<br \/>\nThe cigarette for me was like in a very<br \/>\nimportant place in my life, like for my family.<br \/>\nas with Jorge.<br \/>\nWe smoked in the room.<br \/>\nWe smoked everywhere, so I quit<br \/>\nsmoking very, very easy, really.<br \/>\nI finish a book<br \/>\nand it was like, I&#8217;m going to be free.<br \/>\nI&#8217;m going to be happy non smoker.<br \/>\nAnd it was like that.<br \/>\nExactly like that.<br \/>\nYes, it was something like magic.<br \/>\nIt really the Allen Carr\u2019s Easyway<br \/>\nmethod is incredible because<br \/>\nit changes the way you see cigarettes.<br \/>\nSo when you start reading the book<br \/>\nand or when you go to a seminar or center,<br \/>\nyou start like you very afraid, thinking,<br \/>\nthinking<br \/>\nthat you&#8217;re going to lose your best<br \/>\nfriends, your support, your crutch<br \/>\nyour pleasure<br \/>\nAnd at the end of the of the method<br \/>\nwhen you or the book or the seminar<br \/>\nis the way you think about smoking<br \/>\nis completely different.<br \/>\nYou you really understand that<br \/>\nsmoking cigarettes are not a pleasure.<br \/>\nThey give you no pleasure at all.<br \/>\nThey give you no support at all.<br \/>\nSo you don&#8217;t feel<br \/>\nthat you&#8217;re making a sacrifice.<br \/>\nAnd for me,<br \/>\nthat was the main thing about the<br \/>\nthe method that I really never<br \/>\nthought I was sacrificing something.<br \/>\nSo it made it very,<br \/>\nvery easy to quit smoking.<br \/>\nYes. For us<br \/>\nVery important<br \/>\nalso to to to develop these methods, these<br \/>\nwords to the to<br \/>\nthe people here in Mexico, to the smokers.<br \/>\nBecause also in Mexico,<br \/>\nthere is a lot of people that really think<br \/>\nthat cigarettes are as important<br \/>\nas it was for us.<br \/>\nAnd yeah,<br \/>\nI think with the method we change<br \/>\nthe way that people<br \/>\nin the smokers in Mexico<br \/>\nand in all the world<br \/>\nthinks about the cigarette.<br \/>\nAnd how we decided to to start<br \/>\nwith working for Allen Carr<br \/>\nfor Allen Carr organisation.<br \/>\nWell I remember perfectly<br \/>\nthat I was finishing reading the book<br \/>\nand the last pages of the book,<br \/>\nthere&#8217;s a list<br \/>\nof all the clinics around the world,<br \/>\nand I was looking for a center in Mexico<br \/>\nand I realised that there was no clinics<br \/>\nin Mexico at that time.<br \/>\nSo I remember I was reading the book<br \/>\nand I just went to Isabel and told her,<br \/>\nHey, there are some clinics in Mexico,<br \/>\nI want to start a center here<br \/>\nand she thought I was like a little crazy.<br \/>\nYou know, you have your, your job, your<br \/>\nyou you&#8217;re not a facilitator.<br \/>\nYou&#8217;re not a psychologist.<br \/>\nSo I said,<br \/>\nit doesn&#8217;t matter if it works for me.<br \/>\nI&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s going to work for everybody.<br \/>\nSo I&#8217;m completely excited.<br \/>\nAnd she supported me completely and said,<br \/>\nokay, let&#8217;s do it.<br \/>\nAnd it was very funny<br \/>\nbecause I sent a message<br \/>\nto the organisation<br \/>\nand someone told me, okay,<br \/>\nif you want to get more information,<br \/>\nyou have to come to London.<br \/>\nAnd I said, Okay, next week<br \/>\nI&#8217;m going to be in London.<br \/>\nSo we took a flight to London and we<br \/>\nwe speak with Robin Haley.<br \/>\nHe is he was in charge of everything.<br \/>\nAnd at that time<br \/>\nand it was really a very nice chat.<br \/>\nAnd after half an hour,<br \/>\nwe were already Mexico&#8217;s franchises.<br \/>\nSo we returned to Mexico.<br \/>\nWe start working to open the center.<br \/>\nWe opened the center in December<br \/>\n2004, and<br \/>\nat first we thought it was going<br \/>\nto be like side business, you know,<br \/>\nokay,<br \/>\nwe&#8217;re going to do one or two sessions<br \/>\na week, or maybe every one session<br \/>\nor every two weeks.<br \/>\nBut it was incredible<br \/>\nsince the first day<br \/>\nwe started doing the sessions<br \/>\nuntil now, we have had been completely<br \/>\ndevoted to doing this.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s it takes all our time.<br \/>\nWe had to quit all our all, all our jobs<br \/>\njust to be focussed on this<br \/>\nbecause there are so many people<br \/>\nthat want to quit smoking<br \/>\nand so many people that have<br \/>\nhad quitted smoking here<br \/>\nmakes it would matter that<br \/>\ntoday we have a lot of all sessions<br \/>\naround the country.<br \/>\nYou will find the Mexicans<br \/>\na very big country.<br \/>\nIt has a very big expansion and we have<br \/>\nwe do sessions all around the country<br \/>\nfrom the south to the north.<br \/>\nAnd it&#8217;s has been an incredible<br \/>\njourney, is a it is last 20 years since we<br \/>\nand since we know about the method,<br \/>\nit has been a very incredible journey<br \/>\nfor us.<br \/>\nFor me was like very easy<br \/>\nto go in this journey with Jorge<br \/>\nbecause since I saw him,<br \/>\nwhen he opened the door and told me<br \/>\nI want to be the franchisee of Mexico,<br \/>\nreally, I saw his eyes a lot of passion<br \/>\nand we are partners since we were like kids.<br \/>\nLike we were like 20 years ago<br \/>\nin some another business.<br \/>\nAnd this journey, I think also for us<br \/>\nhas been a challenge, a very<br \/>\npassionate<br \/>\nwork, because it&#8217;s not only the work<br \/>\nand that we are the franchisees.<br \/>\nThis is the passion that I see<br \/>\nevery, every day.<br \/>\nin Jorge and in me to try to help people.<br \/>\nBut it is for us, it&#8217;s incredible. Yes.<br \/>\nThe journey. For us.<br \/>\nYes, we&#8217;re we&#8217;re very we&#8217;re very.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s.<br \/>\nNice because it&#8217;s<br \/>\nwe don&#8217;t only live from this,<br \/>\nbut it&#8217;s also a possibility, Allen Carr\u2019s<br \/>\nthat didn&#8217;t only give us a profession,<br \/>\nbut it also give us<br \/>\nand something that it&#8217;s very special<br \/>\nand it&#8217;s being able to help other people<br \/>\nand I think there&#8217;s no other<br \/>\nis so great satisfaction<br \/>\nas a helping other people to<br \/>\nquit smoking<br \/>\nwe have been doing this for 20 years<br \/>\nand we have seen many,<br \/>\nmany smokers here in Mexico,<br \/>\nand we have seen probably like 70,000<br \/>\nsmokers here in Mexico in the last years.<br \/>\nAnd it&#8217;s incredible<br \/>\nbecause I have met people<br \/>\nin aeroplanes in supermarkets in cinemas,<br \/>\nwhatever, and they they come to us to say,<br \/>\nI&#8217;m really happy.<br \/>\nThank you very much.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s it&#8217;s incredible.<br \/>\nI quitted smoking after going<br \/>\nto one of the Allen Carr\u2019s Easyway seminar.<br \/>\nI was really, really grateful.<br \/>\nAnd that&#8217;s something<br \/>\nyou can\u2019t get  in other jobs.<br \/>\nSo we are very, very, very,<br \/>\nvery happy to be part of this organisation<br \/>\nAnd we have this mission of helping all<br \/>\nsmokers in Mexico to quit smoking.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s our dream to see Mexico<br \/>\nA non smoker.<br \/>\nMexico<br \/>\nA free Mexico &#8211; free from smoking Exactly. Yeah.<br \/>\nAnd now Colleen it&#8217;s incredible<br \/>\nbecause we have also been<br \/>\nhelping very young kids to quit smoking,<br \/>\nspecially with this vape, this new device<br \/>\nthat is sold in bulk in Mexico,<br \/>\nI think all around the world.<br \/>\nFor us, it&#8217;s really a shame<br \/>\nto see that these companies<br \/>\nand these tobacco<br \/>\nnicotine companies<br \/>\nhave really made a new smoking generation.<br \/>\nWe have been doing<br \/>\ntalks in schools for very young kids<br \/>\nand we saw in the last ten years we<br \/>\nwe saw how smoking was going out.<br \/>\nNo, I really thought that this time<br \/>\nthe young kids won&#8217;t be<br \/>\nsmoking.<br \/>\nBut since this vape and this device<br \/>\nhas appeared, it&#8217;s incredible<br \/>\nbecause now I think at least<br \/>\nhere in Mexico, eight of every ten<br \/>\nyoung kids in school are smoking.<br \/>\nSo now every day<br \/>\nwe&#8217;re seeing more and more kids<br \/>\ngoing to the sessions, to the seminars<br \/>\nto quit smoking, vape.<br \/>\nAnd and so we feel this<br \/>\nlike a new mission.<br \/>\nNow, of course, we will continue<br \/>\nto help smokers through our smokers<br \/>\nof tobacco smokers to quit.<br \/>\nBut now we are in mission<br \/>\nto help young people first,<br \/>\nnot to get in the truck<br \/>\nand the nicotine trap and then<br \/>\nif they&#8217;re already trapped to help them<br \/>\nquit smoking.<br \/>\nVape. Yes.<br \/>\nFor us it has been a lot<br \/>\nof work since the pandemia<br \/>\nwhen when it<br \/>\nbegan began the kids just start doing<br \/>\nbut they&#8217;re more and more<br \/>\nwith with their mates.<br \/>\nWe start doing this conference,<br \/>\nmassive conference in the schools<br \/>\nand the university<br \/>\nso we can like deliver a message<br \/>\nfor their parents because here in Mexico<br \/>\nall the parents doesn&#8217;t know what to do.<br \/>\nSo. So a new thing that for us<br \/>\nis has been challenged<br \/>\nto explain to them that<br \/>\nvapes are the same thing as cigarettes.<br \/>\nThey&#8217;re going to quit the nicotine.<br \/>\nSo a lot of people now our center is known<br \/>\nas the center for the vapes<br \/>\nto to help little kids<br \/>\nand also in the schools<br \/>\nto help the teachers<br \/>\nand the people that they&#8217;re going to teach<br \/>\nabout nicotine that<br \/>\nthat the vapes are very harmful harmful<br \/>\nfor the kids.<br \/>\nAnd we are like<br \/>\nwe have a lot of information as a people<br \/>\nthat we are we experts<br \/>\nand these things that we have to<br \/>\nto send the message<br \/>\nand to tell them how to quit<br \/>\nand how to react about<br \/>\nwhen you see that<br \/>\nyour kid is already vaping.<br \/>\nBut to to do what? To react.<br \/>\nAnd we help them a lot.<br \/>\nI think it has been a lot of work and<br \/>\nand it&#8217;s it work.<br \/>\nAnd what&#8217;s incredible about the<br \/>\nAllen Carr Easyway method<br \/>\nis that the even if it&#8217;s it has been here<br \/>\nfor more than 30 years<br \/>\nit&#8217;s exactly the same methods<br \/>\nand you can apply exactly for vapes<br \/>\nand for all<br \/>\nall devices that have nicotine.<br \/>\nAnd it&#8217;s also a shame that even being here<br \/>\nfor more than 30 years,<br \/>\nwe still have smokers<br \/>\nand how it&#8217;s a shame that our governments<br \/>\nare not taking advantage of these methods<br \/>\nof the Allen Carr Easyway<br \/>\nmethod to help other smokers.<br \/>\nBut every year in London<br \/>\nand in other parts<br \/>\nthe world are making some real steps.<br \/>\nSo hopefully.<br \/>\nAllen Carr\u2019s Easyway will be the cure<br \/>\nfor all smokers in the world.<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s our mission.<br \/>\nThat&#8217;s what we are looking for<br \/>\nand we know this method is incredible.<br \/>\nIt works for every every smoker.<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s really easy to quit with a method.<br \/>\nSo this is of course,<br \/>\nthis is a way and this is<br \/>\nhow we&#8217;re going to end with this<br \/>\nwith this thing in the world.<br \/>\nYeah, of course, this is the easy way<br \/>\nto quit smoking.<br \/>\nExactly.<br \/>\nSo we hope our story can motivate<br \/>\nand can help<br \/>\nyou take the decision to quit smoking.<br \/>\nAnd of course, this is the way to do it.<br \/>\nWe have been very, very happy<br \/>\nto be part of this organisation<br \/>\nfor more than 20 years.<br \/>\nWe were very, very happy to see every day<br \/>\npeople quit<br \/>\nsmoking with the method for us.<br \/>\nLike Isabel said, it&#8217;s<br \/>\nnot only our job,<br \/>\nit&#8217;s our passion and we hope we can<br \/>\nwell,<br \/>\nwe give you some motivation to to try it.<br \/>\nYeah, we were very,<br \/>\nvery thankful for all the help<br \/>\nand that we received from<br \/>\nAllen Carr\u2019s Easyway.<br \/>\nworldwide, our friends<br \/>\nfrom all the world, all the franchisees,<br \/>\nand we hope to see you again very,<br \/>\nvery soon because we really miss you. Yes.<br \/>\nAnd of course, we will always be indebt to<br \/>\nAllen Carr<br \/>\nfor me, I&#8217;m sure he doesn&#8217;t only saved my life<br \/>\nbecause I know that if I was<br \/>\nif I continue smoking,<br \/>\nprobably I will not be here today.<br \/>\nSo for me, it&#8217;s not being grateful<br \/>\nwith him for saving my life,<br \/>\nbut for giving a mission and a passion<br \/>\nto help other smokers.<br \/>\nAnd saving all our families lives.<br \/>\nBecause all our families are non-smoker<br \/>\nsmoker, happy non smoker now.<br \/>\nSo thank you very much.<br \/>\nThank you very much.<br \/>\nEasyway team, hope to see you soon<br \/>\nWell, thank you, Jorge and Isabella.<br \/>\nThat was so interesting. And well done.<br \/>\nFor all your work<br \/>\nwith smokers and vapers in Mexico<br \/>\nand thank you as well<br \/>\nfor listening to this episode.<br \/>\nPlease do review and subscribe<br \/>\nto the podcast series so you can hear more<br \/>\ninspiring stories about how Allen Carr\u2019s Easyway<br \/>\nis changing lives for the better.<br \/>\nUntil next time.<\/p>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n<\/section>\n\n\t<script type=\"application\/ld+json\">{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@type\":\"PodcastEpisode\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/www.allencarr.com\\\/en-us\\\/podcasts\\\/podcast-6\\\/\",\"name\":\"Podcast 6\",\"description\":\"Featuring Jorge and Isabel - Allen Carr's Easyway Mexico. Please click the video below to watch the podcast\",\"transcript\":\"Hi, and welcome back.\\nMy name is Colleen Dwyer.\\nI&#8217;m a senior Allen Carr\\u2019s\\nEasyway facilitator.\\nI&#8217;m the presenter of our series of online\\nvideo programs.\\nAnd I&#8217;m your podcast host.\\nI&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re going to get a lot\\nout of this episode.\\nJohn Dicey and I are answering questions\\nfrom listeners in our Addiction\\nCentral segment.\\nJohn Dicey is the global CEO of Allen\\nCarr&#8217;s Easy Way.\\nHe is the co-author of Allen Carr Books\\nand he is a senior Allen Carr&#8217;s\\nEasyway facilitator who has helped\\nliterally millions of addicts\\nto freedom over the last 25 years.\\nWe talk about the new program from\\nAllen Carr&#8217;s Easyway\\n&#8211; The Easyway to Better Sleep,\\nand it&#8217;s getting fabulous results\\nand it&#8217;s basically for anyone\\nwho has any difficulty at all\\nin getting regular, good quality sleep\\nand it&#8217;s never too late\\nto make the changes that will improve\\nyour daily quality of life,\\nwhatever your background.\\nJohn and I are also hearing from listeners\\nwho&#8217;ve contacted us with questions,\\nincluding \\u2018I&#8217;ve just finished\\nthe alcohol book and I still feel anxiety.\\nIs it going to work for me?\\u2019\\nThank you actually\\nfor all the great questions\\nthat we&#8217;ve had from listeners.\\nPlease keep them coming in.\\nWe also have some great guests today.\\nWe have Jorge and Isabel\\nwho manage our operations in Mexico,\\nand they&#8217;ll tell us about their history\\nwith smoking and quitting\\nand how they have built up the clinics\\nin Mexico over the last 20 years.\\nAnd they&#8217;ve helped over\\n70,000 smokers and vapers to freedom.\\nIsabel also tells about their work\\nin guiding parents of Young Vapers,\\nwhich is a growing concern.\\nIf you&#8217;d like your questions answered,\\njust drop us a line on pod@allencarr.com\\nwith whatever you&#8217;d like to say\\nor any questions that you might have.\\nThat&#8217;s pod P.O.D.\\nat allencarr dot com.\\nWe&#8217;re happy to answer any questions\\nabout any addiction\\nand even if we don&#8217;t actually feature\\nyour question on a future episode\\nof the podcast, we will personally reply\\nto any question we receive, providing you\\nwith detailed advice and guidance\\non how to move forward\\nalso, check out allencarr.com and there\\nyou&#8217;ll see the host of addictions\\nand behaviours that Allen Carr&#8217;s Easyway\\nhas now been applied to.\\nSo here I am with John Dicey\\non our Addiction Central segment.\\nYesah, so I should have\\nshould have sent the questions through you\\nto give you enough time to read them\\nabsorb, kind of have a think about them,\\nBut I did them.\\nabout 2 minutes ago\\nfinally collated them from the emails\\nwe had coming in.\\nSo apologies for that.\\nNo worries\\nWell, we&#8217;ve got\\nwe&#8217;ve got a few in, haven&#8217;t we, John.\\nSo we&#8217;ve got Trish from \\u2018didn&#8217;t say\\u2019\\nshe says I&#8217;ve just finished\\nthe alcohol book\\nand I still feel anxiety wondering\\nif it&#8217;s going to work for me.\\nIs this normal.\\nI&#8217;m just so afraid\\nthat it won&#8217;t work for me.\\nAnd she&#8217;s struggling with worry, she says,\\nwhich is not the aim.\\nYeah, that&#8217;s a great\\nIt&#8217;s a great question, though, isn&#8217;t it?\\nBecause so many times people wonder how\\nhow should you feel?\\nAnd, you know,\\nat the end of the seminar, we&#8217;d\\nsay, at the end of the seminar,\\nwe should go round the room\\nand just just touch on each person\\nand just say, \\u2018Hope you\\u2019re fine.\\nAny questions?\\nPeople would often say,\\nOh, I feel fantastic, I&#8217;m ready to go.\\nAnd the person sitting next to them\\nfeels anxious and nervous,\\nworried or sceptical, thinks,\\n\\u2018Oh, blimey &#8211; it hasn\\u2019t worked for me.\\u2019\\nSo it&#8217;s a really,\\nwe do address the seminar and it&#8217;s\\ngood to address it now as well,\\nbecause I&#8217;m can\\u2019t remember\\nhow you said you felt after your seminar,\\nbut for mine I was\\nI was still quite sceptical,\\nI thought was not going to work,\\nyou know, I&#8217;ll give it a go\\nand I certainly didn\\u2019t feel like sort of\\nsort of dancing around the room\\nor anything like that,\\nwhereas there were people in my seminar\\nwho said, \\u2018Yeah, I&#8217;ve got it.\\u2019\\nNever going to smoke again or whatever.\\nAnd I think that alone indicates\\nit doesn&#8217;t really matter how people feel.\\nPeople feel differently\\nin different situations.\\nAnd just because someone\\nstopped smoking or drinking\\nor smoking cannabis or whatever\\nis with the book or the seminar,\\njust because one person feels elated\\nand positive at the end\\ndoesn&#8217;t mean that the person feeling\\nthe opposite of that it isn\\u2019t going to work for them\\nin fact quite often\\nthe reverse is the case.\\nIt doesn&#8217;t really matter\\nhow people feel at the end.\\nIt&#8217;s your experience as well.\\nYeah, because I was the same as you.\\nI was feeling quite.\\nI was bemused, I suppose I wasn&#8217;t.\\nI just kind of thought, is that it?\\nWas that enough?\\nHas the transformation occurred\\nbecause I was expecting a big, you know,\\nHollywood style, you know, reveal\\nand a big change\\nin how I was like feeling and thinking.\\nBut I didn&#8217;t I didn&#8217;t feel any different.\\nAnd like you say,\\nwhen when you went round the room\\nin my seminar\\nasking as the facilitator, asking\\npeople how they&#8217;re feeling,\\nthere was a range of reactions.\\nSome people were nervous still.\\nSome people were, you know, raring to go.\\nAnd I just I said, I don&#8217;t know.\\nI&#8217;m just I&#8217;m okay.\\nBut I thought it was too early to call it.\\nAnd I needed to get some experiences\\nunder my belt.\\nI guess I just\\nI needed to kind of actually go out and\\njust do a few things without the\\nthe cigarettes\\nor the drink\\nand and just see how it played out.\\nAnd and it was fine.\\nIt was fine.\\nAnd it will be for Trish as well\\nbut yeah, the range of reactions\\nat the end of the seminar\\nthis is quite typical isn&#8217;t it.\\nIn fact, we have tissues to hand\\nIn case\\nof any tears\\nYeah.\\nI should point out you actually in the one\\nof the seminar rooms at in London.\\nWhich looks fabulous.\\nI am. I&#8217;m working here today. Yeah.\\nYeah. Some people do don&#8217;t they.\\nSort of get very tearful, emotional\\nat the end and other people\\nthe complete opposite.\\nI think it&#8217;s great to reassure Trish of that\\nit&#8217;s a it&#8217;s a it doesn&#8217;t really matter.\\nI think sometimes the books talk about,\\nyou know, you&#8217;re not 100% sure,\\nreread the relevant part book\\nthat you&#8217;re worried about.\\nI think once someone&#8217;s done\\nthat, you just go with it.\\nGo for it, you\\u2019ve got to get out there,\\nenjoy life right from the start.\\nAs long as you do that,\\neven if you&#8217;re anxious or unsure\\nor uncertain you&#8217;ll get a fabulous surprise.\\nI think it generally does\\njust click for people.\\nI was very lucky,\\nI think, because I was a chain smoker.\\nand you were a heavy smoker as well?\\nWeren\\u2019t you?\\nBut for me, probably a few minutes\\nafter the seminar,\\nall that was enough to have me think.\\nI think this has worked, you know,\\nbecause you know, a\\nI lit a cigarette\\nas soon as the last one was extinguished.\\nSo as I left the seminar center\\nand walked across the parking lot,\\nI thought, Oh, I&#8217;m all right,\\nthat&#8217;s interesting.\\nOkay, I\\u2019ll see how I go.\\nAnd then got to sort of the\\nthe mailbox on the corner.\\nI thought \\u2018I haven\\u2019t lit up!\\u2019\\nI mean, I had thrown the cigarettes\\naway at the end of the seminar\\nbut I thought, okay, that&#8217;s interesting.\\nI feel okay.\\nThey went past the cornershop\\non the way to the station and\\nBlimey &#8211; I\\u2019m fine and it\\nreally was a weird sort of feeling.\\nAnd that and that&#8217;s how,\\nthat&#8217;s how it felt really. It wasn&#8217;t\\nIt was just a bit of an odd\\ncool feeling,\\nslightly, slightly, slightly peculiar.\\nAnd so that that was, that really\\nwas very quickly I suddenly thought\\nnever done this before,\\nyou know, never gone that long\\nwithout a cigarette before\\nunless I was asleep\\nso yeah just to reassure Trish\\nyou know it doesn&#8217;t matter how you feel\\ngo for it, you&#8217;ll be fine.\\nSo the next one is from Kate,\\nwho also says,\\nwell, also it doesn&#8217;t say why she&#8217;s from\\nand she wanted to.\\nShe said, I just wanted to drop your line.\\nSo I&#8217;m loving your podcast.\\nPerfect timing to discover it.\\nAs I attended a seminar in 2018\\nand was a glorious happy non drinker,\\nbut then fell back into the trap\\nduring lockdown.\\nDuring lockdown like a total bell end.\\nI&#8217;ve been listening to the audiobooks\\nand podcasts\\nand back in that blissful state,\\nso you know, that&#8217;s wonderful feedback.\\nAs I recall, she didn\\u2019t actually say that word\\nThere was a picture of an emoji of a bell,\\nand the word e n d\\nI just thought you might skirt over that,\\nbut you went for the\\nfull, full disclosure. But\\nI didn\\u2019t know\\nhow to..\\nyou did only give me a 15 minute warning.\\nI need longer.\\nYeah she did do a little emoji.\\nIt&#8217;s a great reminder, please do let us know\\nPlease do let us know where you&#8217;re from\\nwhen you write in.\\nI mean, you know, just\\nthe country is great.\\nJust get, get, get an idea\\nwho we&#8217;re talking to.\\nAware if if that makes sense.\\nBut ever so kind to say\\nthat she&#8217;s found the\\nthat podcasts are useful.\\nI mean, I didn&#8217;t actually expect anyone\\nto quit as a result of the podcasts.\\nYeah, you kind of hope that\\nit will inspire people\\nto quit or inspire people\\nto think again about, you know,\\nif the method hasn&#8217;t worked for them.\\nAnd I think perhaps it does that somewhat.\\nSo people have a listen\\nand they kind of pick up, you know, just,\\nyou know, the last example\\nis probably really good.\\nIf someone gets really hung up,\\nthey don&#8217;t feel right.\\nHaving read the book at the end,\\nit could be\\nit could be stuck in this constant cycle.\\nSo someone hearing that,\\nyou know from us, that it doesn&#8217;t matter\\nhow you feel at the end, it is enough\\nto kind of set them on their way, I think.\\nAnd I think she said that\\nthat last question,\\nshe listened to the audiobook\\nas well or something.\\nWell, you mean from Kate?\\nOr attended a seminar in 2018.\\nYeah.\\nAnd then she fell back into the trap.\\nYeah. No.\\nSo but it\\u2019s great\\nthat she&#8217;s refocused or whatever.\\nI&#8217;ve seen a couple of comments from people\\non social media saying that they\\nthat they&#8217;re free &#8211; courtesy of the podcast,\\nwhich is kind of pretty cool.\\nYeah, very happy with that.\\nBut you know,\\nwe love to get those messages\\nfrom people who are happy\\ndid Kate say that she she gone back to\\nto drinking during COVID.\\nI think that&#8217;s sort of a well-trodden path\\nfor a number of people\\nwho whichever method of\\nstopping smoking or drinking\\nor whatever else they might use,\\nlike COVID lockdown periods\\nwere, were really tough for people.\\nI think\\nit was possibly easy\\nfor some to to fall back into the trap.\\nAnd of course,\\nnow, well, it&#8217;s largely gone back to normal.\\nAnd they\\u2019re busy getting free again.\\nAnd you know, it&#8217;s brilliant to hear that.\\nSo yeah, it did the next person\\nI don&#8217;t think the next person said where\\nthey\\u2019re from either did they? next question.\\nNoone said\\nwhere they were from, so yeah\\nGiovanni and he said like \\u2018Really love\\nthese podcast addiction central\\nAre you going to continue\\nthey&#8217;re really useful.\\nSo that\\u2019s cool\\nNo, that\\u2019s great to hear\\nWe love to get feedback and yeah\\ndefinitely carry on for the meantime\\nI think we probably review it\\nwhen we get to sort of episode\\n12 or 16 or something.\\nWe don&#8217;t want to bore people too much.\\nAnd I think I think hopefully everything\\nwe talk about, whether it&#8217;s,\\nyou know, special guests or or us talking\\nabout answering questions,\\nwill remain as relevant\\na couple years down the line as they\\nthey are today.\\nSo yeah, we&#8217;re looking forward\\nto carrying on a bit longer with them\\nWe must get people to get get write in\\nLet us know your questions.\\nAny difficulties in understanding elements\\nof the method, Anything at all?\\nWe&#8217;re we&#8217;re happy to answer them. Yeah.\\nYeah, yeah. That&#8217;s great.\\nAnd it&#8217;s nice as well to, to have this\\nNow, there&#8217;s such a deluge of information\\nout there on the Internet\\nand just, you know,\\nany other source about how hard it is\\nto quit smoking or drinking or cocaine.\\nAnd I was doing research\\nfor another project and it just struck me.\\nI was looking up about alcohol withdrawal\\nand I was reading on some, you know,\\nofficial sites about alcohol withdrawal\\nand they were saying how\\nlike when you quit taking alcohol\\ninto your body, your body rebels.\\nAnd I just thought what nonsense.\\nAnd, you know, sign out saying, oh,\\nyou&#8217;re when the body has become dependent\\non nicotine, but your body&#8217;s\\nnever been dependent on nicotine.\\nAnd I just it&#8217;s nice\\nto have an opportunity to come out with the\\nwith something that I say \\u2018alternative\\u2019\\n&#8211;  the correct\\nunderstanding of addiction\\nand just say it straight.\\nYou know, it&#8217;s not hard to clear\\nany of these substances and it&#8217;s not\\nit is enjoyable.\\nLife is so much better\\nwithout all of these things.\\nAnd if you if you go down the route\\nas buying into what the, you know,\\nexperts, so-called experts\\nsay about it, then, you know, you&#8217;re in\\nyou&#8217;re in for a rough ride.\\nAnd it&#8217;s you know, it&#8217;s nice to know\\nthat there&#8217;s there&#8217;s hope\\nExactly when it the difference is lost\\non many of those in traditional\\nrehab drug cessation areas.\\nFacilitators, they don&#8217;t realise\\nlike they constantly talk about\\nyou are dependent on this drug,\\nwhether it&#8217;s alcohol,\\nnicotine, heroin,\\nwhatever it whatever it is.\\nAnd I don&#8217;t realise that the significance\\nthat just an extra word\\nmakes you feel dependent on it.\\nIt doesn&#8217;t mean\\nthat you are dependent on it, and that&#8217;s\\nactually crucial point\\nthat you were just making\\nAnd it is sort of like brainwashing.\\nyou know, the people who are trying to help\\npeople get free,\\nare the ones who are reinforcing\\nthis belief \\u2018I\\u2019m dependent on it.\\u2019\\nI can&#8217;t do anything without it.\\nWell, yes you can,\\nyou did all your life before you got hooked.\\nSo that&#8217;s that&#8217;s a great, great,\\ngreat point.\\nSo we&#8217;ve got LOL\\nwho didn&#8217;t say where they were from\\nand it says, please talk about the success\\nof the opioid program\\nand senior facilitator experience\\nwith opioid addiction.\\nThat&#8217;s a good one. That&#8217;s great, isn&#8217;t it?\\nI think we&#8217;ve touched on this\\nin previous episodes,\\nfor sure, in terms of how the seminars\\nfor other drugs\\nwork, how effective they are.\\nAnd I think we&#8217;ve got, scheduled\\nan interview with the great Cris Hay,\\nwho has been instrumental in applying\\nAllen Carr\\u2019s Easyway to a host\\nof different addictions from cannabis\\nto cocaine to heroin, alcohol, virtually\\nall of that.\\nThat&#8217;s something for everyone\\nto really look forward to as well.\\nI think Cris will be a really great guest,\\ngreat to get him on the podcast\\nto talk about that\\nwithout wanting to pre-empt\\ntoo much of what Cris might say.\\nThis is saying that the same principles\\napply to opioid addiction\\nin terms of\\nunderstanding, understanding what benefits\\nyou think you get from it,\\nand then understanding why actually\\nyou don&#8217;t get those you believe you do\\nand that&#8217;s the, and that&#8217;s the problem.\\nBut I think, LOL\\nI love that name\\nI don\\u2019t know if that\\u2019s a real name\\nLOL or she\\u2019s just laughing out loud\\nI think she seemed quite passionate\\nabout getting the\\nthe news out there that we do help with\\nwith opioids as well,\\nwhich is pretty cool.\\nYeah, because what is really available\\nfor people who have got\\nan opioid addiction is just like rehab.\\nIs there any narcotics Anonymous?\\nAnd yes, it is quite extraordinary.\\nI mean, I&#8217;ve met a couple of people\\nrecently who have\\nput their kids through rehab\\nin the previous 12 to 18 months and\\nit&#8217;s terrifying that they sort of\\nkeep bouncing back into rehab.\\nAt extraordinary costs really,\\nof trying to deal with\\nat least two of them\\nsaid they&#8217;d spent something\\nin the region of \\u00c2\\u00a3150,000\\non rehab for their kid,\\nwhich is about, I think, about $180,000\\nUS dollars\\nAustralian dollars, I always struggle\\nto convert Australian dollars\\n267,000 AUD.\\nNow I sort of\\nit&#8217;s horrific\\nthat the families\\nknow they&#8217;re so desperate that they get\\nthat sort of money together\\nand sadly\\nthey don&#8217;t get a result that they want,\\nwhich makes it really\\nour program seem\\nI think honestly sometimes if we\\nif we charged\\n\\u00c2\\u00a3100,000\\nper the person with\\na money back guarantee, maybe\\nmore people would come.\\nI don&#8217;t know.\\nBut but it&#8217;s a very small amount\\ncompared to that.\\nBut we think it&#8217;s 1800 pounds,\\nsomething like $2,000\\nless than that, even 1-1 seminar\\nwith a money back guarantee, which is\\njust tragic that the people are spending\\nso much money on rehab\\nwhen, you know, their first port of call\\nreally should be, of course, easy way\\nbecause, well, is nothing to lose.\\nSo, yeah, thanks a lot.\\nThanks for getting us to talk about that.\\nKeep spreading the word.\\nAnd what about the experience of the\\n\\u2018What&#8217;s the senior\\ntherapist experience\\nwith opioid addiction?\\nI didn&#8217;t quite understand\\nthat in terms of.\\nHave they been addicted to opioids?\\nI guess.\\nYeah. I think that&#8217;s that&#8217;s\\nIt&#8217;s a good question.\\nI mean, it&#8217;s very hard\\nto help someone with an addiction if\\nif you haven&#8217;t suffered it yourself.\\nAnd it was one of the beauties of the team\\nthat we put together with Allen\\nCarr is sort of amongst us\\nbeing addicted to everything.\\nYou know, normally it would be\\na very bad thing to put on a CV\\nthat the, you know, coke, heroin\\nor whatever else it might be.\\nBut actually\\nAllen was always very open about that\\nbecause, well, actually what if you use\\nthe method, and can apply it to\\nto another drug. Help apply it to another drug\\nthat&#8217;s, that&#8217;s worth its weight in gold.\\nWe carried on apace.\\nWe&#8217;re very lucky now I think with comms.\\nNow we can talk to so many different\\npeople who suffered\\nso many different addictions. It\\nhelp applying the method to to those.\\nWhen I was before I started\\nworking with Allen Carr\\u2019s The Easyway\\nMy view of let&#8217;s say\\nheroin addiction was kind of cartoonish.\\nYou know,\\nI kind of saw when I grew up in the age of\\nthe Just Say No campaign,\\nand there was a particular TV show\\nin the UK called Grange Hill.\\nI don&#8217;t know if you remember it, John\\nbut there was a little kid in that Zamo\\nand he went from\\nhe was a really cheeky little chappie\\nand he was very cute and nice character.\\nAnd then he took heroin\\non the Monday episode.\\nAnd then by the Friday episode, he was\\nhe was in the gutter.\\nBasically.\\nHe was stealing from his grandma.\\nHe was dirty.\\nHe was taking heroin in the school toilets\\nand sneaking life and things and\\nand that was all part of this.\\nJust say no campaign, don&#8217;t take drugs.\\nAnd I was horrified of heroin\\nfrom the results.\\nI was like,\\nOh my God, I wouldn&#8217;t go anywhere near.\\nAnd if anyone took heroin, like,\\nI would think, Oh,\\nI couldn&#8217;t even talk to them almost.\\nBut obviously\\nmy understanding of addiction\\nand meeting people who are functioning\\nhigh functioning heroin addicts,\\nyou know, my my understanding\\nis, is completely well it&#8217;s been\\nis a much more realistic understanding.\\nIt\\u2019s a difficult,\\nsuch a difficult point\\nto talk about, really, because there are\\nthere are sort of two cohorts, really.\\nOne of the sort of you\\ndescribe the high functioning,\\nyou know, good jobs, just,\\nyou know, they\\u2019re desperate to get free.\\nThey and they understand\\nthat sort of clock is ticking on their\\ntheir ability to function properly.\\nAnd then the absolute tragedy\\nof the opioid\\nopioid epidemic across North America,\\nparticularly\\nwhere,\\nyou know, normal people prescribed,\\nyou know, Class A drugs, painkillers for\\nsure in the recovery of the road\\ntraffic accidents\\nor sporting injuries or whatever,\\nwho very quickly\\ngoing to to decline.\\nAnd when they&#8217;re\\nwith a legitimate supply of those drugs\\nrun out\\nhave to to kind of switch on\\nto street sort of stuff\\nand illicit\\nmeans of getting hold of the drugs\\nillicitly\\nand they, sadly those people do have this\\nyou know, spectacular fall from\\nfrom like a normal life into,\\nyou know, this\\nterribly sad,\\nyou know, zombie like existence.\\nA lot of the stuff out in the streets now\\nnot just in the US\\nUK of Europe these synthetic\\nstuff that used to be called\\nthese called legal highs\\nin a lot of a lot of places,\\nwhich made them sound not too risky,\\nmade them sound actually that,\\noh, it&#8217;s legal.\\nSo, you know, whatever,\\nthey&#8217;ve wreaked havoc\\nfirstly across kids in college who experimented\\nthinking you know, legal highs,\\nthere must be no risk, you know, whereas\\nit&#8217;s highly, highly addictive stuff.\\nAnd then the cheap supply\\nof those sort of drugs\\ngetting onto the streets,\\nis the plight of the homeless communities where\\nthey get the stuff relatively\\ncheaply, pretty much comatose\\ngo into comatose state for hours on end.\\nSo these are two different types\\nof background we can help either\\nI think that&#8217;s the important thing.\\nWe still try to get the method\\npackaged in a way that can help\\nthat second group\\nthat you know, those who are,\\nyou know, dragged down so low\\nthat they\\u2019re on the street,\\nbarely barely functioning.\\nBut we\\u2019ll certainly get there\\nit&#8217;s another a good question.\\nYeah fantastic. Thank you, John.\\nThe next couple of things\\nwe&#8217;re going to talk about is the release\\nof the new Sleep Online video program.\\nSo that&#8217;s just been launched,\\nhasn&#8217;t it, Following the the book.\\nYeah, that\\u2019s absolutely brilliant.\\nIt&#8217;s a sort of\\na long, long period of research\\nand testing led to the release of the book\\nand then further research,\\nfurther testing.\\nAnd finally,\\nthe online\\nvideo program is ready to go,\\nstarring the very brilliant\\npresenter experienced senior Allen Carr\\nEasyway facilitator.\\nWho is it? Yes, yes.\\nIt is yes,\\nbut you did a great job on it.\\nReally just a fabulous job.\\nAnd it&#8217;s getting rave reviews.\\nSo people are it.\\nThere are certainly different causes of\\nsleep issues,\\noften multiple causes.\\nAnd I think the program puts together\\nthis sort of list a checklist.\\nOkay,\\nThere\\u2019s 28 \\\/ 30 different things\\nthat could be causing the problem.\\nLet&#8217;s, let&#8217;s tick them off.\\nAnd you only have to do\\nyou don&#8217;t have to do all of them.\\nThat&#8217;s the important thing.\\nIt&#8217;s people tend to do one\\nand then another, then another.\\nThey tend not to\\nattack it\\nrobustly,\\nbut do this as many things as possible to\\nto guarantee better sleep.\\nAnd it&#8217;s a\\nyou know, very pleased the way it&#8217;s going.\\nAnd it&#8217;s available now on allencarr.com\\nHelping loads and loads of people\\nget back to sleep, sleeping healthily.\\nThat&#8217;s the really thing.\\nAnd it&#8217;s not just people\\nwho can&#8217;t sleep,\\nit&#8217;s people who have low quality of sleep.\\nand they stay in that sort of light sleep\\nwhich can be caused\\nby all sorts of things.\\nSometimes those who drink in the evening,\\nthey never get to the brilliant quality\\nsleep that refreshes them, reinvigorates them\\nand helps their brain process\\n the events of the day\\nor what have you.\\nSo that&#8217;s all really good.\\nSo just a heads up to anyone out there\\nwho has an issue with sleep.\\nIt&#8217;s is out now.\\nYeah.\\nAnd it&#8217;s it was great working on that\\nbecause it really educated me\\ninto to the importance of sleep.\\nAnd I think that in society in general,\\nwe&#8217;re beginning to recognize\\nhow critical is to our enjoyment of life.\\nI used to view it as like almost dead\\nhours.\\nIt&#8217;s kind of a little bit\\npointless waste of time, but actually\\nit&#8217;s crucial to having a fulfilling and,\\nyou know, life\\nfull of enjoyment and energy\\nand all the good stuff.\\nI think a key a key, a key\\nbit of information was that I think it&#8217;s,\\nyou know, you need most people need\\na minimum 7 hours sleep a night.\\nYou know, if you get any less than seven,\\nyou head into trouble mental\\nhealth\\nwise, physical wise and every every way.\\nAnd knowing that, I think\\njust that sort of small of it\\ncan be between seven and nine, I think.\\nSo you some people need seven.\\nSo I know that&#8217;s\\nwhat your target should be.\\nDoesn&#8217;t just make it easier\\nto make those changes to your sleep\\nand your plans for sleep.\\nSuperimportant\\nAbsolutely.\\nAnd the other thing\\nthat I really took note\\nof was just making\\nsure your environment is\\nbecause I kind of knew,\\nyou know, in magazine articles, it says,\\nyou know, make sure that you&#8217;ve got dark,\\nyou know, sleeping area and stuff.\\nI didn&#8217;t really understand why\\nthat was so important\\nand what a difference that made\\nto make sure that the different elements\\nof your sleeping environment\\na perfect fit for that,\\nyou know, for that activity.\\nYes. Simple things as well,\\nisn&#8217;t it stuff.\\nI mean, some of the stuff is\\nwill be challenging for some people.\\nMost of it the easy wins.\\nYou know, you&#8217;ll you know,\\nI never realised you could be too hot\\nfor good sleep.\\nYou know there&#8217;s a particular\\ntemperature support you got to get, get,\\nget the bedroom at that temperature\\nthere.\\nThey&#8217;re about certainly in a warmer\\nthe specified temperature escapes me.\\nNow I&#8217;m thinking 18 degrees. Yeah.\\nI think that&#8217;s what it was\\nAnd, and making sort of a bedroom\\nwas sort of a sanctuary\\nso many times so often now where we we\\nyou know,\\npeople are doing work in their bedroom,\\nyou know, work from home or whatever,\\nbut also checking emails first thing\\nin the morning from the bedroom, whatever.\\nJust actually,\\nif you can, it&#8217;s possible to\\nto keep keep the bedroom for sleep\\nand other relaxation shall we say\\nThat&#8217;s the way that&#8217;s the way\\nto do it\\nAnd you know what really struck me?\\nSo some of the advice is so simple\\nbut so brilliant.\\nThe stuff about making your bed. Yeah.\\nNever really.\\nYeah.\\nyou know, I always wondered \\u2018What\\u2019s the point in making your bed?\\u2019\\nyou gonna get in it later\\nBut there&#8217;s nothing more welcoming\\nthan the nicely made bed, the plumped up pillows,\\nthey&#8217;re all ready to go.\\nSo at the end of the night\\nall you\\u2019ve got to do is slip in\\nI don\\u2019t want to under\\nplay, the importance of the information there\\nBut those are just an example of the easy\\nwins.\\nSimple stuff\\ncombined with every other other lifestyle\\nfactors.\\nHow much sugar, refined sugar\\nyou consume starchy\\ncarbs, caffeine, the\\nthe usual and some surprising stuff.\\nSo I would never have realised that\\nthat sugar, starchy\\ncarbs could could cause,\\nor exacerbate the sleep problem\\nor be the cause of the sleep problem\\nSo that was good If people want to read about that it\\u2019s on allencarr.com\\nFantastic. Okay.\\nAnd then we were, the final point\\nfor today\\nwas going to be reaching out for help.\\nWhy don&#8217;t people do it\\nin spite of our repeated offers\\nof free advice and guidance?\\nThat&#8217;s a that is a great\\ntopic to talk about, actually,\\nbecause we spend an awful\\nlot of time on social\\nmedia keeping an eye out for\\nanyone posting about\\nstruggling to quit with the method\\nwhichever addiction or issue\\nthat might be involving\\nand just reassuring them\\nand the first thing we do is say &#8211; get in touch.\\nWe offer free of charge\\nadvice and guidance,\\nwhether they\\u2019ve read the book\\nor watched the online video program\\nor whatever it might be.\\nI think some people, if it doesn&#8217;t work\\nfor them the first time around,\\nthey kind of feel defeated,\\nand \\u2018Well it&#8217;s not going to work.\\u2019\\nIt was going to work.\\nIt would have worked\\nfirst time around and they don\\u2019t realise that\\nthat normally just a few wise words from us\\nis all that&#8217;s needed\\nfor them to access that method.\\nagain, read the book\\nthat they have already or watch an online video program again or whatever\\nand and apply some\\nof that simple advice,\\nguidance and achieve the result they want.\\nand that\\u2019s so important\\nSo why do you think\\npeople resist asking for help?\\nIt&#8217;s a it&#8217;s unusual, isn&#8217;t it?\\nIf you&#8217;re drowning,\\nyou put your hand up, somebody puts their\\nhand out, you want to grab hold of it.\\nThe thing is, Allen alway summed this up\\nI think\\nso perfectly\\nsome people have a fear of failure\\nand some people have fear of success.\\nFear of failure is pretty obvious.\\nSome people are worried\\nif they don&#8217;t succeed\\nnow with\\nAllen Carr&#8217;s Easyway, is that it?\\nAre we their\\nlast chance sort of thing.\\nFear of success is even more interesting\\nthat people think\\nthey assume that when they quit\\nwhatever drug it is.\\nThey&#8217;re going to feel deprived or miserable\\n they&#8217;re going to feel\\nyou know, it&#8217;s going to be gloomy,\\na gloomy future, a future\\nthat don&#8217;t realise course, the whole point\\nIs that it\\u2019s easy.\\nSo sometimes, I think, fear of successful\\nwill deter someone\\nreaching out for help.\\nIt&#8217;s weird as it sounds. In case it works,\\nthat&#8217;s that.\\nDoes that make sense to you?\\nBecause I think it&#8217;s going to work\\nand then they\\u2019ll be miserable\\nfor the rest of their lives.\\nThey don\\u2019t realise\\nIt will work\\nand they feel free and never look back.\\nThat&#8217;s it.\\nBecause the brainwashing is so\\nwe&#8217;re so indoctrinated with this idea that\\non the other side of that decision\\nto quit the sugar, the nicotine,\\nthe alcohol is misery and cravings\\nunsatisfied cravings, you know,\\nand life is going to be duller\\nand we almost can&#8217;t believe\\nwe almost don&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s possible\\nto achieve total freedom\\nfrom the desire to do any of these things.\\nAnd so I suppose there&#8217;s disbelief.\\nYou know, there&#8217;s ..\\nDo they dare to even believe\\nthat it&#8217;s possible?\\nAnd and also, I don&#8217;t know about you\\nand maybe this has changed now\\nin our society, but back in my day,\\nthere was almost like not shame\\nin asking for help, but almost like, well,\\ncome on, just do it on your own.\\nLike,\\nwhy can&#8217;t you just do it on your own?\\nWhy do you need to ask for help?\\nYou know, I don&#8217;t know whether that&#8217;s\\na factor for some people, but I think so.\\nYes, I think yeah, I think I think society\\nis I think that&#8217;s sort of the case.\\nYou feel that\\nthey should be able to do it on their own\\nBut I think trying to get through to them\\nactually there&#8217;s a reason\\nwe&#8217;re offering this help\\nand the reason we\\u2019re offering it freely,\\nis we feel very passionately\\nabout getting people&#8217;s freedom.\\nWe know that some people just need\\na little bit of extra help.\\nSo it&#8217;s so so anyone who listens to this.\\nWho who?\\nis on one of our social media group,\\nwhether it&#8217;s for the sleep program,\\nwhether it&#8217;s for alcohol,\\nwhether it&#8217;s sugar\\nor emotional eating or smoking or vaping.\\nIf you\\u2019re listening to this now,\\nand you&#8217;ve struggled or failed up until now.\\nGet in touch\\nbecause it&#8217;s the best thing\\nyou&#8217;ll ever do.\\nReally.\\nIt really is.\\nYou&#8217;ve got nothing to lose. It\\u2019s free.\\nYou don&#8217;t have to attend a seminar\\nor buy a new book or whatever\\nWe\\u2019ll give you sort of clear\\nguidance and advice, step by step advice.\\nAnd you could use that to either\\nread the book.\\nYou have read the most recent book\\non the subject, dealing with\\nor use the online video program or attended\\nthe live seminar, but the most important thing\\nis you get that, you get help.\\nIt&#8217;s huge.\\nMakes a huge, huge difference.\\nI like the analogy of someone drowning\\nthat you just you need a helping hand\\nsometimes to pull you out.\\nSometimes we do need other people.\\nWe do need a program.\\nWe do need, you know, support from some\\nother people to get us out of trouble.\\nYeah, it&#8217;s just finishing the job\\nfor some people.\\nI think that, you know,\\nyou&#8217;re reading a book designed to help you\\nthat suit\\nthat you&#8217;ve already reached out for help\\nor you&#8217;re watching a video program or\\nseminar or whatever it is.\\nIf for whatever reason it doesn&#8217;t\\nback in touch because there&#8217;ll be pieces\\nof the jigsaw for you that&#8217;s missing.\\nIt&#8217;s really easy for us.\\nwe use a questionnaire process.\\nThe more information\\nyou give us, the better\\nour advice can be.\\nAnd how long do would you say, John,\\nit would take to fill out\\nthat questionnaire?\\nIs it like a long you know.\\nNo,   5 minutes?\\nReally first name\\nwe do like to know where people are\\nbecause that does help understand,\\nfor example,\\nif we think they might benefit\\nfrom a free of charge\\ntelephone call with one of our team,\\nwe don&#8217;t hesitate to offer that,\\nyou know, just\\nto clarify any points in person\\nSo where you\\u2019re from,email address,\\nphone number, if you want to call\\nand then  a brief\\ndescription of of of which elements\\nof the method they&#8217;ve used\\nso if they read the book, in which case,\\nwhich book\\nand what happened did you find it easy for\\na while and then go back to it\\nor did you just find it a struggle right\\nfrom the start.\\nThat&#8217;s really it&#8217;s a\\nmore than 5 minutes really\\nthe more information\\nyou give us the better.\\nBut really, as long as we know.\\nWhat have you done with Allen Carr so far?\\nHow did you get on on each occasion\\nand how long ago was it?\\nYou know that information\\nYeah.\\nFabulous\\nWe&#8217;re done.\\nIs that a wrap?\\nYeah.\\nIt&#8217;s a wrap.\\nI&#8217;d like to.\\nI&#8217;d like to ask the question, Is that a wrap?\\nI&#8217;ll let you have that one. Yes. So\\nyeah,\\nmy, my\\ncold hasn&#8217;t made it too unpleasant to listen.\\nNot no.\\nWell, not for me.\\nBut do write in if it is a problem for anyone\\nJust complain about John&#8217;s.\\ncold\\nnasal tones\\nYeah, that&#8217;s fantastic.\\nThank you very much John.\\nSo I am delighted to welcome\\nJorge and Isabel to the podcast.\\nThey head up Allen Carr\\u2019s Easyway\\n operations in Mexico and over the past\\n20 years they have helped literally\\ntens of thousands of smokers to freedom.\\nAnd I asked them to talk a little bit\\nabout their lives as smokers,\\nhow they got free,\\nand how they&#8217;ve helped the smokers\\nof Mexico, as well as more recently\\nhelping youngsters who vape.\\nThey really are heroes of Carr&#8217;s easy way.\\nHello, Coleen,\\nwe\\u2019re Isabel and Jorge and\\nwe\\u2019re are the franchisees\\nfor Mexico, the whole country?\\nWe have been helping smokers\\nhere in Mexico since 2004\\nand we are very happy\\nto be part of this organisation that helps\\nso many smokers around the world.\\nThank you, Colleen for the interview\\nand we are very happy\\nto be here responding all your questions.\\nI&#8217;m going to tell you\\nabout my smoking history.\\nI started smoking when I was 14 years old.\\nI started like almost all of all smokers.\\nI started smoking\\nonce here and here, once right there\\nwith my friends in the parties.\\nThen I started smoking a little more\\nand more and more.\\nAnd when I was like 25 years\\nold, I was already smoking\\ntwo packs a day.\\nSo I think I considered myself\\nlike a very heavy smoker.\\nI also started smoking\\nvery young because my family was a very,\\nvery strong smoker.\\nFamily.\\nDo I like a professional smoking family?\\nMy father was a smoker of four packages\\na day.\\nIt was very difficult to live\\nwith someone that speaks\\nthat smoke so much as a kid.\\nI really hate cigarettes.\\nI was all the time\\ntelling my father, Don&#8217;t enter to my room.\\nI really hate to smoke and like that,\\nbut as every smoke\\na smoker,\\nwe we start like playing with the friends.\\nAnd when we start smoking, we start a lot.\\nWe smoke a lot because in\\nmy family was like, very common.\\nMy, my mother smoked two packages.\\nMy we are four\\nsiblings and we are all well.\\nWe were heavy smokers of two packages\\na day\\nand also in our country is very common\\nthat kids start smoking very young.\\nSo it was our case also.\\nWhen I was around two,\\nwhen I made a lot of I tried to quit\\nsmoking with a lot of methods,\\nwith a lot of different techniques.\\nI tried\\nnicotine patches, nicotine gum,\\nbut it was always the same story.\\nI quit smoking for a couple of these.\\nI was very angry.\\nI was not feeling very cool\\nand making a lot of excuses.\\nAnd after some days I was smoking again.\\nSo when I was like 30 years old,\\nI really thought I was going to be\\na smoker for the rest of my life.\\nI really thought I was never going\\nto be able to quit smoking.\\nAnd then Isabelle, Isabelle&#8217;s\\nfamily, is from Spain,\\nand she has a normal\\nwhen she has an uncle there.\\nAnd see, he was also a very heavy smoker\\nand he came to Mexico for holidays\\nand he brought the\\nAllen Carr\\u2019s Easyway to quit smoking book.\\nAnd at that time I was trying to quit\\nsmoking with nicotine patches.\\nI remember and he told me,\\nNo, no, no, don&#8217;t joke with that.\\nJust read this book.\\nEverybody that read this book,\\nStop Smoking.\\nSo I read the book and it was like magic.\\nI just finished\\nreading the book in a couple of days\\nand the since the last page, since I\\nsmoke my\\nlast cigaretteI knew I was going to be a\\nnon smoker and the happy non smoker\\nfor for the rest of my life.\\nSo for me, the message was incredible.\\nIt was an incredible experience.\\nIt like opened my eyes.\\nI never thought that a method or\\na book would change the way\\nI think so much,\\nbut it was really a shock.\\nSo I really was smoking.\\nOne day I was smoking 40 cigarettes a day\\nand the next day I was happy\\nnon smoker just because I read the\\nAllen Carr\\u2019s book.\\nSo for me it was so such a surprise\\nthat I immediately knew that if\\nthe method have work with me.\\nIt will work for all smokers\\nat that time\\nthere wasn&#8217;t clinics here in Mexico,\\nso we got in touch with Allen Carr\\nwell with the organisation\\nand we decided that we wanted to start\\ndoing sessions here in Mexico.\\nFor me was also, well, a little similar,\\nbut it was actually a little funny\\nbecause my family thought that he was\\ncrazy because\\nthey cant believe that\\nJorge quit smoking really.\\nJorge was a very heavy smoker\\nas our family\\nand we in a vacation in Christmas,\\nI remember we were all in the same house\\nand for three weeks and he was free.\\nHe was so happy\\nand the only way was that they were like,\\nAre you are you are not mine.\\nYou&#8217;re not like trying to\\nto eat more or something.\\nAnd everybody was like,\\nI can&#8217;t believe it.\\nJorge! And we were very happy,\\nbut we had a lot of,\\na lot of fear\\nbecause in my case it was going to be\\nI was going to be\\nthe only person that smoked in my house.\\nAnd it was a challenge, really\\na challenge for me because I was like very\\nyou know, you had a lot of fear, afraid.\\nI was very afraid because to try\\nbecause this\\nhe quit smoking with a book and\\nI can\\u2019t  do it.\\nI was like, I what I&#8217;m going to do.\\nSo I wait for like three or four months.\\nAnd they were like, I&#8217;m going to read it.\\nAnd I started reading it.\\nI was a very good reader\\nbecause I\\u2019m from a family of\\npublishing company and one\\nmy grandfather,\\nand they were like, I&#8217;m going to read it\\nand very quick, so I&#8217;m going to know\\nif I&#8217;m going to be a smoker.\\nas Jorge as non smoker, No.\\nSo I quit like in two days\\nbecause it was the time I had to read it.\\nAnd really it was impressive\\nbecause I had to smoke\\neven in my pregnancy,\\nreally, I had to smoke\\nbecause I can&#8217;t quit.\\nThe cigarette for me was like in a very\\nimportant place in my life, like for my family.\\nas with Jorge.\\nWe smoked in the room.\\nWe smoked everywhere, so I quit\\nsmoking very, very easy, really.\\nI finish a book\\nand it was like, I&#8217;m going to be free.\\nI&#8217;m going to be happy non smoker.\\nAnd it was like that.\\nExactly like that.\\nYes, it was something like magic.\\nIt really the Allen Carr\\u2019s Easyway\\nmethod is incredible because\\nit changes the way you see cigarettes.\\nSo when you start reading the book\\nand or when you go to a seminar or center,\\nyou start like you very afraid, thinking,\\nthinking\\nthat you&#8217;re going to lose your best\\nfriends, your support, your crutch\\nyour pleasure\\nAnd at the end of the of the method\\nwhen you or the book or the seminar\\nis the way you think about smoking\\nis completely different.\\nYou you really understand that\\nsmoking cigarettes are not a pleasure.\\nThey give you no pleasure at all.\\nThey give you no support at all.\\nSo you don&#8217;t feel\\nthat you&#8217;re making a sacrifice.\\nAnd for me,\\nthat was the main thing about the\\nthe method that I really never\\nthought I was sacrificing something.\\nSo it made it very,\\nvery easy to quit smoking.\\nYes. For us\\nVery important\\nalso to to to develop these methods, these\\nwords to the to\\nthe people here in Mexico, to the smokers.\\nBecause also in Mexico,\\nthere is a lot of people that really think\\nthat cigarettes are as important\\nas it was for us.\\nAnd yeah,\\nI think with the method we change\\nthe way that people\\nin the smokers in Mexico\\nand in all the world\\nthinks about the cigarette.\\nAnd how we decided to to start\\nwith working for Allen Carr\\nfor Allen Carr organisation.\\nWell I remember perfectly\\nthat I was finishing reading the book\\nand the last pages of the book,\\nthere&#8217;s a list\\nof all the clinics around the world,\\nand I was looking for a center in Mexico\\nand I realised that there was no clinics\\nin Mexico at that time.\\nSo I remember I was reading the book\\nand I just went to Isabel and told her,\\nHey, there are some clinics in Mexico,\\nI want to start a center here\\nand she thought I was like a little crazy.\\nYou know, you have your, your job, your\\nyou you&#8217;re not a facilitator.\\nYou&#8217;re not a psychologist.\\nSo I said,\\nit doesn&#8217;t matter if it works for me.\\nI&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s going to work for everybody.\\nSo I&#8217;m completely excited.\\nAnd she supported me completely and said,\\nokay, let&#8217;s do it.\\nAnd it was very funny\\nbecause I sent a message\\nto the organisation\\nand someone told me, okay,\\nif you want to get more information,\\nyou have to come to London.\\nAnd I said, Okay, next week\\nI&#8217;m going to be in London.\\nSo we took a flight to London and we\\nwe speak with Robin Haley.\\nHe is he was in charge of everything.\\nAnd at that time\\nand it was really a very nice chat.\\nAnd after half an hour,\\nwe were already Mexico&#8217;s franchises.\\nSo we returned to Mexico.\\nWe start working to open the center.\\nWe opened the center in December\\n2004, and\\nat first we thought it was going\\nto be like side business, you know,\\nokay,\\nwe&#8217;re going to do one or two sessions\\na week, or maybe every one session\\nor every two weeks.\\nBut it was incredible\\nsince the first day\\nwe started doing the sessions\\nuntil now, we have had been completely\\ndevoted to doing this.\\nIt&#8217;s it takes all our time.\\nWe had to quit all our all, all our jobs\\njust to be focussed on this\\nbecause there are so many people\\nthat want to quit smoking\\nand so many people that have\\nhad quitted smoking here\\nmakes it would matter that\\ntoday we have a lot of all sessions\\naround the country.\\nYou will find the Mexicans\\na very big country.\\nIt has a very big expansion and we have\\nwe do sessions all around the country\\nfrom the south to the north.\\nAnd it&#8217;s has been an incredible\\njourney, is a it is last 20 years since we\\nand since we know about the method,\\nit has been a very incredible journey\\nfor us.\\nFor me was like very easy\\nto go in this journey with Jorge\\nbecause since I saw him,\\nwhen he opened the door and told me\\nI want to be the franchisee of Mexico,\\nreally, I saw his eyes a lot of passion\\nand we are partners since we were like kids.\\nLike we were like 20 years ago\\nin some another business.\\nAnd this journey, I think also for us\\nhas been a challenge, a very\\npassionate\\nwork, because it&#8217;s not only the work\\nand that we are the franchisees.\\nThis is the passion that I see\\nevery, every day.\\nin Jorge and in me to try to help people.\\nBut it is for us, it&#8217;s incredible. Yes.\\nThe journey. For us.\\nYes, we&#8217;re we&#8217;re very we&#8217;re very.\\nIt&#8217;s.\\nNice because it&#8217;s\\nwe don&#8217;t only live from this,\\nbut it&#8217;s also a possibility, Allen Carr\\u2019s\\nthat didn&#8217;t only give us a profession,\\nbut it also give us\\nand something that it&#8217;s very special\\nand it&#8217;s being able to help other people\\nand I think there&#8217;s no other\\nis so great satisfaction\\nas a helping other people to\\nstop smoking\\nwe have been doing this for 20 years\\nand we have seen many,\\nmany smokers here in Mexico,\\nand we have seen probably like 70,000\\nsmokers here in Mexico in the last years.\\nAnd it&#8217;s incredible\\nbecause I have met people\\nin aeroplanes in supermarkets in cinemas,\\nwhatever, and they they come to us to say,\\nI&#8217;m really happy.\\nThank you very much.\\nIt&#8217;s it&#8217;s incredible.\\nI quitted smoking after going\\nto one of the Allen Carr\\u2019s Easyway seminar.\\nI was really, really grateful.\\nAnd that&#8217;s something\\nyou can\\u2019t get  in other jobs.\\nSo we are very, very, very,\\nvery happy to be part of this organisation\\nAnd we have this mission of helping all\\nsmokers in Mexico to quit smoking.\\nIt&#8217;s our dream to see Mexico\\nA non smoker.\\nMexico\\nA free Mexico &#8211; free from smoking Exactly. Yeah.\\nAnd now Colleen it&#8217;s incredible\\nbecause we have also been\\nhelping very young kids to quit smoking,\\nspecially with this vape, this new device\\nthat is sold in bulk in Mexico,\\nI think all around the world.\\nFor us, it&#8217;s really a shame\\nto see that these companies\\nand these tobacco\\nnicotine companies\\nhave really made a new smoking generation.\\nWe have been doing\\ntalks in schools for very young kids\\nand we saw in the last ten years we\\nwe saw how smoking was going out.\\nNo, I really thought that this time\\nthe young kids won&#8217;t be\\nsmoking.\\nBut since this vape and this device\\nhas appeared, it&#8217;s incredible\\nbecause now I think at least\\nhere in Mexico, eight of every ten\\nyoung kids in school are smoking.\\nSo now every day\\nwe&#8217;re seeing more and more kids\\ngoing to the sessions, to the seminars\\nto quit smoking, vape.\\nAnd and so we feel this\\nlike a new mission.\\nNow, of course, we will continue\\nto help smokers through our smokers\\nof tobacco smokers to quit.\\nBut now we are in mission\\nto help young people first,\\nnot to get in the truck\\nand the nicotine trap and then\\nif they&#8217;re already trapped to help them\\nstop smoking.\\nVape. Yes.\\nFor us it has been a lot\\nof work since the pandemia\\nwhen when it\\nbegan began the kids just start doing\\nbut they&#8217;re more and more\\nwith with their mates.\\nWe start doing this conference,\\nmassive conference in the schools\\nand the university\\nso we can like deliver a message\\nfor their parents because here in Mexico\\nall the parents doesn&#8217;t know what to do.\\nSo. So a new thing that for us\\nis has been challenged\\nto explain to them that\\nvapes are the same thing as cigarettes.\\nThey&#8217;re going to quit the nicotine.\\nSo a lot of people now our center is known\\nas the center for the vapes\\nto to help little kids\\nand also in the schools\\nto help the teachers\\nand the people that they&#8217;re going to teach\\nabout nicotine that\\nthat the vapes are very harmful harmful\\nfor the kids.\\nAnd we are like\\nwe have a lot of information as a people\\nthat we are we experts\\nand these things that we have to\\nto send the message\\nand to tell them how to quit\\nand how to react about\\nwhen you see that\\nyour kid is already vaping.\\nBut to to do what? To react.\\nAnd we help them a lot.\\nI think it has been a lot of work and\\nand it&#8217;s it work.\\nAnd what&#8217;s incredible about the\\nAllen Carr Easyway method\\nis that the even if it&#8217;s it has been here\\nfor more than 30 years\\nit&#8217;s exactly the same methods\\nand you can apply exactly for vapes\\nand for all\\nall devices that have nicotine.\\nAnd it&#8217;s also a shame that even being here\\nfor more than 30 years,\\nwe still have smokers\\nand how it&#8217;s a shame that our governments\\nare not taking advantage of these methods\\nof the Allen Carr Easyway\\nmethod to help other smokers.\\nBut every year in London\\nand in other parts\\nthe world are making some real steps.\\nSo hopefully.\\nAllen Carr\\u2019s Easyway will be the cure\\nfor all smokers in the world.\\nThat&#8217;s our mission.\\nThat&#8217;s what we are looking for\\nand we know this method is incredible.\\nIt works for every every smoker.\\nIt&#8217;s really easy to quit with a method.\\nSo this is of course,\\nthis is a way and this is\\nhow we&#8217;re going to end with this\\nwith this thing in the world.\\nYeah, of course, this is the easy way\\nto quit smoking.\\nExactly.\\nSo we hope our story can motivate\\nand can help\\nyou take the decision to quit smoking.\\nAnd of course, this is the way to do it.\\nWe have been very, very happy\\nto be part of this organisation\\nfor more than 20 years.\\nWe were very, very happy to see every day\\npeople quit\\nsmoking with the method for us.\\nLike Isabel said, it&#8217;s\\nnot only our job,\\nit&#8217;s our passion and we hope we can\\nwell,\\nwe give you some motivation to to try it.\\nYeah, we were very,\\nvery thankful for all the help\\nand that we received from\\nAllen Carr\\u2019s Easyway.\\nworldwide, our friends\\nfrom all the world, all the franchisees,\\nand we hope to see you again very,\\nvery soon because we really miss you. Yes.\\nAnd of course, we will always be indebt to\\nAllen Carr\\nfor me, I&#8217;m sure he doesn&#8217;t only saved my life\\nbecause I know that if I was\\nif I continue smoking,\\nprobably I will not be here today.\\nSo for me, it&#8217;s not being grateful\\nwith him for saving my life,\\nbut for giving a mission and a passion\\nto help other smokers.\\nAnd saving all our families lives.\\nBecause all our families are non-smoker\\nsmoker, happy non smoker now.\\nSo thank you very much.\\nThank you very much.\\nEasyway team, hope to see you soon\\nWell, thank you, Jorge and Isabella.\\nThat was so interesting. And well done.\\nFor all your work\\nwith smokers and vapers in Mexico\\nand thank you as well\\nfor listening to this episode.\\nPlease do review and subscribe\\nto the podcast series so you can hear more\\ninspiring stories about how Allen Carr\\u2019s Easyway\\nis changing lives for the better.\\nUntil next time.\\n\",\"datePublished\":\"2023-04-17T11:33:32+01:00\",\"thumbnailUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/allen-carr-live.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2023\\\/04\\\/17112443\\\/Episode-6-Isabella-and-Jorge-images-150x150.png\",\"associatedMedia\":{\"@type\":\"MediaObject\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\\\/\\\/vimeo.com\\\/815023157\\\/bcef0665ae\"}}<\/script>\n\n\n            <\/div>\n        <\/div>\n        <\/section>\n\n    <section class=\"related-articles u-background-white article-related-articles\">\n                \n                            \n                \n        <h3 class=\"related-articles__title u-text-center\">\n            Up next&#8230;\n        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